KQhh flops trips against an UTG limp caller

[Suited_Jock]

Thought this was one of my most interesting hands from UKIPT Nottingham, tbh im really struggling to range people properly that limp call out of position.. its always a weak line right? or someone trying to set mine?

Would like some constructive criticism on this hand and my thinking.
Blinds 150/300 a 25

We are playing 35k on the button
Villian in the hand 19k UTG

Reads .. we have none, we have just been broken up and i've been here for four hands.. in which he has played none of them. He is of eastern european descent.. i think, possibly scandinvian.

Villian limps utg.. folds to us on the button and we look down at  and raise to 1.1k

Folds to villain who asks how much im playing and then flat calls.

Flop 

Villain Checks I bet 1800

Villain makes it 4175 - Obviously i'm not folding here and if i raise I cannot see what he can call with, I really believe he is doing this with complete air or a weirdly played overpair turned bluff. So after about 30seconds i make the call.

Pot: 11225

Turn is the 

and he checks really quickly.. like he's given up on the hand im torn between a small bet like quarter/third pot and checking.. i think he might fire a bullet on the river if i check and decide this is the best line.

River

Villain leads for 6000, Hero Calls


Results later... I'm really trying to improve my game with a view of playing more UKIPT/GPS tournies and hate posting hands due to the amount of flaming that goes around so please be gentle.

[pleno1]

i think generally when people limp call we can give them a super wide range, hands like 67s, ace rag, broadways and quite commonly low pocket pairs.

Pre flop is std, wwp.

Flop is good, i actually like calling a little quicker and taking up tanking time on the turn, vs spewy people when they make a raise we should generally think what the nut time to take is then take it between flop and turn, so if we think its 52seconds, we should do flop is 6 seconds and turn in 45. If you want to do huge hollywood then i prefer a balanced tank and doing 1.5 mins on flop and turn and taking less than 1 second otr to call.

When he checks the flop however i would elect to bet to get pair by pairs.

On the river, raising is not good, i think he will hero fold all worse hands and the j does complete some randomly played luckbozed hands.

[parker]

I like the way you played it.

After the line he takes on the flop im not sure how else you can get value from him.

I guess from his point of view once you call the check raise your hand is pretty face up (mainly in the sense he knows hes losing)

In that case I like the check on the turn. Youre giving him doubt you dont have a made hand, a chance to catch up and a chance to bluff his little socks off. Which is what he did on the river.

Shame that any jack is one of the worst cards you could see. As pleno said above any strange connectors and draws get there. obv not a raise.

I think hes played his hand pretty scooby tbh to check raise that flop oop after he has utg limp called... he doesnt really rep much imo.

He has succesfully spewed off over half is stack in a hand he never should have been involved with....

[youthnkzR]

Played it fantastically imo..

[SuuPRlim]

hate posting hands due to the amount of flaming that goes around so please be gentle.

I think you're wrong here. Look back over the last 100 threads and if you can find 3 of them where a regular poster flames someone (not in a "jesty" way like when James Keys tells me i should get a job or when Stu Barnett tells me I'm the worst player in history lol) and i'll retract, but I'd say out of 100 you'd find 1 or 0 threads where someone was flamed. SO if you want to post hands, post hands! It's not 2+2 everyone is friendly and happy to take time out to post for the most part.

As for this hand his flop c/r is just really strange I guess he's trying to rep....pocket TENS? I'm quire sure he wouldn't limp call TT all that much of the time, same with AQ, KQ, QJ or QT (maybe QJ or QT - that wouldn't be a good play but he could certainly have done it) your conclusion that on the flop you now have a hand of which it's primary value is to catch his bluffs more than be able to raise for value is spot on, so calling clearly the best play. It's also quite a BIG check raise for such a board texture, which is odd.

When he checks the turn it seems like he is either c/r with TT or Qx or he was bluffing on the flop I do however agree with PLENO that a small bet to try get some value of a Tx hand that's lost his brain a bit on the flop or try induce a jam from his flop air (most likely hands are 89.J8.J9 with backdoor flushdraws)

On the river +1 to your thoughts and to Pleno's comments you can't raise and the way the hand has played folding seems somewhat ridiculous, pay the man and when he has  you can justifiably be really really tilted at this hand lol.

All in All wp - I do feel though betting the turn has slight merit over checking.

[Suited_Jock]

hate posting hands due to the amount of flaming that goes around so please be gentle.

I think you're wrong here. Look back over the last 100 threads and if you can find 3 of them where a regular poster flames someone (not in a "jesty" way like when James Keys tells me i should get a job or when Stu Barnett tells me I'm the worst player in history lol) and i'll retract, but I'd say out of 100 you'd find 1 or 0 threads where someone was flamed. SO if you want to post hands, post hands! It's not 2+2 everyone is friendly and happy to take time out to post for the most part.

As for this hand his flop c/r is just really strange I guess he's trying to rep....pocket TENS? I'm quire sure he wouldn't limp call TT all that much of the time, same with AQ, KQ, QJ or QT (maybe QJ or QT - that wouldn't be a good play but he could certainly have done it) your conclusion that on the flop you now have a hand of which it's primary value is to catch his bluffs more than be able to raise for value is spot on, so calling clearly the best play. It's also quite a BIG check raise for such a board texture, which is odd.

When he checks the turn it seems like he is either c/r with TT or Qx or he was bluffing on the flop I do however agree with PLENO that a small bet to try get some value of a Tx hand that's lost his brain a bit on the flop or try induce a jam from his flop air (most likely hands are 89.J8.J9 with backdoor flushdraws)

On the river +1 to your thoughts and to Pleno's comments you can't raise and the way the hand has played folding seems somewhat ridiculous, pay the man and when he has  you can justifiably be really really tilted at this hand lol.

All in All wp - I do feel though betting the turn has slight merit over checking.

Wasn't meaning Blonde specifically, just posting hands in generally.. Got really good feedback on both my hands I posted ty guys..

PS Nice read Dave.. suits were wrong though

[SuuPRlim]

PS Nice read Dave.. suits were wrong though

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such tilt, those are the hands that make me wanna break things.

[muckthenuts]

I would bet the turn. His range has a fair bit of semi bluffs/pairs in that will be inclined to give us another street on this card. He's probably just giving up all his air at this point so i don't think we'll get another stab on the river too often plus it's hard for him to catch up in a way that'll c/c. We're getting max two streets so turn feels like our best bet.