What to do with AQs

[Derbylad]

£40 freezeout tonight at DTD and enter at blinds 50/100.

Dealt to Hero  UTG and raise to 275
MP Raises to 1275 pretty quickly and stares me down.

Folds round to me. The starting stacks are now 15k and we both have around the same chips. Limited info on the opponent, only that the bet screams i dont really want to see a flop with my middle pair/ possible AK etc... don't really think he's the type to overbet big hands.

Do we find the fourbet? flat?

[buzzharvey22]

probably just fold...

[BulldozerD]

Save them chips

[pleno1]

folding is fine, Aks is interesting.

[PeeJay]

Fold. You aren't being exploited at any point, nobody 3bets light. Going to be crushed so often and we don't need to get involved in these marginal spots this early in the comp when our edge is theoretically suppose to be bigger then the rest of the field. Wait for level 4 then go bananas

[SuuPRlim]

foldings

[cambridgealex]

our edge is theoretically suppose to be bigger

it's derby lad mett.

. Wait for the cash games to open then go bananas

fyp

[Derbylad]

So we went against our own beliefs and flatted....

FLOP:
 

OH HI DER.....

What is our line now we're playing out of position?

Pot: 2850

I went for the magic number of 1875? thoughts

[BulldozerD]

You didn't check to the guy who 3bet you?

[Derbylad]

You didn't check to the guy who 3bet you?

he's more likely to check back middle pairs, the only hand we can see him betting that we beat is AK if hes scared of the two spades, he's hardly ever 3 betting that big with AA, QQ.... maybe 77. Leading out i don't miss a bet, and get 3 streets if he's got AK.

[Beaver808]

He has either AA, QQ or J10s - just a guess mind...

Fold pre is the obv choice but I would have though that now we've found ourselves here, checking the flop to the 3-better would be wiser... but then again this is live poker, he could have anything and barrel off 3 rounds with 72o

[Beaver808]

You didn't check to the guy who 3bet you?

he's hardly ever 3 betting that big with AA, QQ.... maybe 77

Do we know this person, I've seen many people make very big bets with AA,KK,QQ and justify it with such crap as "I'm sick of getting my hands cracked" plus it's easier to just pull off a big 1000 chip for the raise and say raise a thousand and chuck the chip in the middle.

[cambridgealex]

donk bets are for donkeys.

...usually

[Derbylad]

donk bets are for donkeys.

...usually

eeyore sigh...

Okay, in reflection i'm only getting value here from AK as my arguments pretty flawed about his value hand ranges.
He's likely to fold middle pairs, if he was going to check them anyway and im giving him the option to barrel with air.....
as well as if he does have me crushed im hanging myself.

check raising or betting the turn if it gets clicked back seemed to be the way to go.

[parker]

in a 40 pound comp, early on, most players at my local luton casino arn't capable of 3 betting middle pairs, they flat behind to set mine.

I would ALWAYS check that flop.

Reason being is that to open and flat out of position, YOUR hand looks like a mid pair.

Giving him some credit he would always cbet that board because to a third person not seeing any cards.... your hand looks like mid pair, his hand looks like broadway cards.

Having said that i wouldv folded pre. Thats a large amount of your stack early on to play a marginal range (facing 3bet) out of posiiton.

I dont like the donk bet on the flop.

Thinking he wouldnt play a middle pair like that, anything else he 3 bets with has connected. AK, AQ, AJ(??). The only hands youre getting value from on that flop, that you beat, are AK and KK. Its perfectly possible for him to have AA and QQ.

Bare in mind most players are aware of the strength opening utg has. He knows you have a hand and he still 3bet massively. Hes not doing this because he doesnt want to see a flop. Hes doing this because you show strength opening utg and he thinks you cant pass. (thus thinking hes winning!)

then again i may be completely wrong