Cash Game spot

[Radagast]

Be gentle.

Prior to this hand I have around 100 gbp, Villain has around 200.  He is a regular cash player.  He doesnt work and is a winning player at cash most nights playing from 10pm until 6/7/8 am.

He usually has it when called but sometimes doesnt.  Likes to make big bets to make others fold.  Is quite unpredictable in range.  

30 mins prior to this hand a similar situation arose.  He made a pot sized 50 quid river bet on a board with 2 jacks, was called and lost.  Neither player had a jack.

I am in BB with  

Villain is UTG + 1, he limps for 2, button and small blind both call,  I check

Pot is 8

Flop is    

Everyone checks

Pot is 8

Turn is  

SB bets 7, I call, villain calls

Pot is 29

River is  

SB bets 7, I call, villain makes it 50, SB folds,

me? pot is now 93 and 43 for me to call.


Question 1 ...Pre flop how often should I raise, if ever?

Question 2 ...How often does he have a nothing much, bare ace, higher flush, full house.

[iwillwinlots]

1. never
2. your Always beat

[cambridgealex]

You should never raise this hand preflop from the big blind. You can check and see the flop for free. I'd never raise anything but a good hand in this situation, most pairs, KJ/KQ and AT+. People won't fold very often, especially the limper, to whom you're out of position. Check.

I'd lead this flop. You have great equity with a plethora of outs if called, the others will fold loads too, it's unlikely anyone has an Ace, or a pocket pair, so you'll get it through a lot. Be wary that if you are called, it will often be by a better flush draw so if it comes in, don't inflate the pot and be prepared to fold. If you get one caller and you miss, you can fire the turn if called and bluff the river too perhaps if you think your opponent has a flush draw too.

As played, I'd call the turn and raise the river. You're always ahead of the guy who bets £7 - he'd never only bet 7 with a better hand than yours. You can comfortably fold vs the other guy once he makes it 50. He always has you beat here.

[sm00035]

You can comfortably fold vs the other guy once he makes it 50. He always has you beat here.

Don't agree with this at all. Obviously he can have you beat, but the hand is played so passively the whole way through I'd expect him to raise all A's and even complete bluffs on this river (albeit I can't actually think of any bluffs he can have), it's live poker and nothing surprises me.

I think more interestingly, I know you are playing gbp, but what currency is he playing?

[sm00035]

Meh, I'm an idiot, I read the post wrong, didn't realise the guy raising river was the winning reg. Yeh a 5high flush is never winning.

Be more interesting if you had a T high flush

[cambridgealex]

Meh, I'm an idiot, I read the post wrong, didn't realise the guy raising river was the winning reg. Yeh a 5high flush is never winning.

Be more interesting if you had a T high flush

idiot

[LeeMcshane]

1) i would never raise pre, 2) i would definate bet the flop with your stong looking draw. 3) i would not calll the re raise on the river your so far behind with your flush...

[FrenchieBeni]

Worst we bet/call otr?

[tight4better]

1) never raising this out of the BB, unopened to me on the button then yes. Like Alex I'm only ever raising live limpets (new word for limpers ) with KJ+

2) you're always beat, the reg you describes wouldn't be a winning player if he's making a ridiculous overbet like this without the 5 high flush beat. Even if on the 1% chance you're not beat there's a lot better spots to get money in, let him have your £7 and get it back later.

Lead the flop, you have ridic equity and are building a bigger pot for yourself if you catch an offsuit 4 or your flush draw is live.

Worse I bet call with OTR?  would have me sweating on the wrong side of call probably, even though personally I think this is a boat raising to get a flush to punch a ticket to valuetown. Personally I think this is 22 or 66,

[Radagast]

You can comfortably fold vs the other guy once he makes it 50. He always has you beat here.

Don't agree with this at all. Obviously he can have you beat, but the hand is played so passively the whole way through I'd expect him to raise all A's and even complete bluffs on this river (albeit I can't actually think of any bluffs he can have), it's live poker and nothing surprises me.

I think more interestingly, I know you are playing gbp, but what currency is he playing?

Ha ha very good.  I have a daft german? keyboard and the pound sign is a complicated 10 button combination iirc.  We were both using gbp sterling legal tender.

[Radagast]

Ok unfortunately I called.  I thought for ages.  This guy could have made this play with any of his range.  Its def his style to put pressure on me.

But in my thoughts I had really forgotten about the initial raiser on the button.

The reg was raising both of us really so he had to have something. 

I actually settled on him having an ace rag that missed the full house and was trying take down the pot away from small flushes like me.

He had 

If I hadnt witnessed him bet the 50 on the river an hour so before and get called by a pocket pair and lose I think I would have folded.  I almost did.

But he is the type to make that move with any of his limping range.

Thanks for all the feedback.  I appreciate it.

[muckthenuts]

Levelled yourself here. Remember a good player is gonna be able to differentiate between the good and bad bluffing spots and isn't necessarily just a serial bluffer.