Full tilt players to be paid in full?

[MANTIS01]

I actually think (and have thought for a while) that Lederer prolly wasn't complicate in the illegal stuff at FTP, but that he (being quite a savvy/smart guy) had a pretty decent inkling something suspect was going on but didn't act on those suspicions. I'd like to think the hundreds of thousands of dollars p/m he was making weren't the reason he chose to ignore the concerns but I think we'd all be quite naive to think that didn't play a part.

Chris Ferguson's role in all this is something I'd really like to hear more about, I always felt like he was more innocent than the others BUT HL kinda implying he had a much more hands on role within the company than he did, which is interesting.

+1

Given that there is still a civil lawsuit pending against him and with the knowledge that all of this is going to come out anyway when Bitar goes on trial, he has very little incentive to lie in this interview.

Lederer is involved in a $443m fraud in USA. He is on the hook for assests totalling $43m which feds have traced to stolen money and Bitar could get life in prison. Also Howard's rep is in tatters and he will be lucky if he can ever enter a casino with any credibility again. In fact he will prob get the odd slap from disgruntled/drunk poker players for the rest of his days. Thus there is massive incentive to lie at every turn and the constant lies will be like machine gun fire. To think there is no lying here is quite cute and innocent.

[TightEnd]

Part 3 The Backlog and Black Friday

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2012/09/the-lederer-files-the-backlog-and-black-friday-9174.htm


Part 4 The Lederer Files: Black Friday Aftermath, the Search for a Solution

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2012/09/the-lederer-files-black-friday-aftermath-the-search-for-a-so-9182.htm

[77dave]

im not sure
i dont want to speculate
i cant quite recall
im not sure at this point
ill have to think about that
i wouldnt like to guess
it could be i really dont know
i cant say that didnt happen
im not sure if i ever asked that question
i dont recall ever seeing that email, but its possible i did.
i know it was a 9 figure number but i dont know what it was

im not sure he has actually answered 1 question giving details that i didnt already know.

[Oxford_HRV]

im not sure
i dont want to speculate
i cant quite recall
im not sure at this point
ill have to think about that
i wouldnt like to guess
it could be i really dont know
i cant say that didnt happen
im not sure if i ever asked that question
i dont recall ever seeing that email, but its possible i did.
i know it was a 9 figure number but i dont know what it was

im not sure he has actually answered 1 question giving details that i didnt already know.

That's pretty much it, he hasn't got anything to tell the poker public.

[TightEnd]

5 The Lederer Files: The Phil Ivey Lawsuit, Transition 2.0

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/09/the-lederer-files-the-phil-ivey-lawsuit-transition-2-0-13447.htm

6 The Lederer Files: Outstanding Member Loans, Groupe Bernard Tapie Complications

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/09/the-lederer-files-outstanding-member-loans-tapie-13449.htm

[AlunB]

http://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/107f4g/the_lederer_files_30_truth_30_plausible

[AlunB]

And also http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=34923832&postcount=1282

[TightEnd]

Part 7 http://www.pokernews.com/news/2012/09/the-lederer-files-pokerstars-saves-the-day-apology-13457.htm


Some insider reaction http://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/107f4g/the_lederer_files_30_truth_30_plausible

[TightEnd]

http://www.billrini.com/2012/09/21/the-lederer-files-parts-5-6-and-7/

[Doobs]

Cliffs on the Lederer interview for those that haven't got a spare 3 hours.

[paulhouk03]

Cliffs on the Lederer interview for those that haven't got a spare 3 hours.

thanks for this i really cba to create an account to watch the vid

[jgcblack]

Cliffs on the Lederer interview for those that haven't got a spare 3 hours.

thanks for this i really cba to create an account to watch the vid

they are on youtube.. and they're worth the watch imo

[smashedagain]

Cliffs on the Lederer interview for those that haven't got a spare 3 hours.

thanks for this i really cba to create an account to watch the vid

they are on youtube.. and they're worth the watch imo

the majority of it is complete bollocks and unbelievable. Can you imagine what the 3 1/2 hours they cut out was like

[Simon Galloway]

Watched all of em.  Shockingly bad interviews.  Would love to have seen Frost and Paxman tag-team this one.

The interviewer answered his own questions  a lot, but most annoyingly failed to probe further into the answers, just preferring to "stick to the script" and rarely, if ever, challenging the validity of any of the answers or lack of answers.

It should have been (and hopefullly if 2+2 still get the follow-up gig as anticipated it still will be) focussed far more on the bad business decisions that led to insolvency and far less on the DoJ actions.

[Tal]

"Did you threaten to overrule him?"

"I did not overrule him"

"But did you threaten to overrule him?"


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