Euro 2012 line up

[Horneris]

lol Pleno has officially lost it.

[The Camel]

Basically even beginning to think what team England will put out proves to me that we have virtually no shot at winning.

[pleno1]

carrick > gerrard atm. gerrard did fuck all in his peak, now hes past it.

Gerrard did fuck all at his peak?

for england..

[pleno1]

--------------------hart
walker----richards------terry-------a cole
-------------------parker--------------------
---------lampard----------gerrard----------
chamberlain-----------------------downing
------------------welbeck-------------------

- rio is pretty shocking too, maybe cahill in for richards, as terry and him developing good relationship now
- parker been off form, but barry doesn't have the pace to play at international level
- lampard back in form
- gerrard not really sure about, dunno how joe cole is doing. would love scholes there.
- young been way off it since november, and walcott is just tez

downing?!?!

i'd rather play carroll than welbeck by himself.

[kinboshi]

Basically even beginning to think what team England will put out proves to me that we have virtually no shot at winning.

At least the expectation levels will be lower than usual, and less of the patriotic bias from the media telling everyone the 30/40/50 years of hurt will soon be over.

[bobby1]

Any midfield featuring the likes of Parker, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Barry or even Carrick will be completely over run by the more skillfull players and players with pace.

Just look what a proper class midfield did to us in the Germany game at the world cup, Ozil, Khedira Schwienstieger and the other guy that I cannot remember were truly different class.

Starting the comp without our one quality striker too and the best two c defenders when fit will barely talk to each other even if they are selected, we are a truly shocking price to win it.

[aaron1867]

It's time for Roy to make some decisions and some crucial ones too.

Lampard should go, but I just do not rate Gerrard at all, but he will get the nod I am sure.

We have one world class player and he is banned for 2 games. We will grind out a couple of results to get past group stages, then we will be out in the KO round.

[The Camel]

Any midfield featuring the likes of Parker, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Barry or even Carrick will be completely over run by the more skillfull players and players with pace.

Just look what a proper class midfield did to us in the Germany game at the world cup, Ozil, Khedira Schwienstieger and the other guy that I cannot remember were truly different class.

Starting the comp without our one quality striker too and the best two c defenders when fit will barely talk to each other even if they are selected, we are a truly shocking price to win it.

Just don't take Terry.

He's nowhere near the player he was 5 years ago.

And only a truly world class player (I'm talking about Ronaldo/Messi class) is worth taking as a risk when he's as divisive as Terry.

[bobby1]

Any midfield featuring the likes of Parker, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Barry or even Carrick will be completely over run by the more skillfull players and players with pace.

Just look what a proper class midfield did to us in the Germany game at the world cup, Ozil, Khedira Schwienstieger and the other guy that I cannot remember were truly different class.

Starting the comp without our one quality striker too and the best two c defenders when fit will barely talk to each other even if they are selected, we are a truly shocking price to win it.

Just don't take Terry.

He's nowhere near the player he was 5 years ago.

And only a truly world class player (I'm talking about Ronaldo/Messi class) is worth taking as a risk when he's as divisive as Terry.

yes, I personally wouldnt take him. The prob with almost all the experienced players is none of them are as good as they were 5 years ago and they weren't good enough then either. I would rather see Ashley Young and Walcott in the team esp if Carroll is going to play when Rooney is out.

[anthonyl]

--------------------hart
walker----richards------terry-------a cole
-------------------parker--------------------
---------lampard----------gerrard----------
chamberlain-----------------------downing
------------------welbeck-------------------

- rio is pretty shocking too, maybe cahill in for richards, as terry and him developing good relationship now
- parker been off form, but barry doesn't have the pace to play at international level
- lampard back in form
- gerrard not really sure about, dunno how joe cole is doing. would love scholes there.
- young been way off it since november, and walcott is just tez

downing?!?!

i'd rather play carroll than welbeck by himself.

carroll is a complete donkey, doubt he will be even in the squad.

downing is quality. disappointing that no one signed up adam johnson, him playing regularly in the last couple of months would have been good.

[The Camel]

Any midfield featuring the likes of Parker, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Barry or even Carrick will be completely over run by the more skillfull players and players with pace.

Just look what a proper class midfield did to us in the Germany game at the world cup, Ozil, Khedira Schwienstieger and the other guy that I cannot remember were truly different class.

Starting the comp without our one quality striker too and the best two c defenders when fit will barely talk to each other even if they are selected, we are a truly shocking price to win it.

Just don't take Terry.

He's nowhere near the player he was 5 years ago.

And only a truly world class player (I'm talking about Ronaldo/Messi class) is worth taking as a risk when he's as divisive as Terry.

yes, I personally wouldnt take him. The prob with almost all the experienced players is none of them are as good as they were 5 years ago and they weren't good enough then either. I would rather see Ashley Young and Walcott in the team esp if Carroll is going to play when Rooney is out.

It will never happen obv, but I would like Hodgson to leave virtually all the old guard at home.

Gerrard, Lampard, Parker and Rio as well as Terry.

I'd prefer Downing to Walcott if Carroll is going to start.

[mondatoo]

carrick > gerrard atm. gerrard did fuck all in his peak, now hes past it.

Gerrard did fuck all at his peak?

for england..

The man has a point, which was obv what he meant.

[Josedinho]

Milner over the old boys for me.

[MANTIS01]

Reading that people rate Carrick ahead of Steven Gerrard actually brought a tear to my eye. This is Steven Gerrard ffs. Everything about the guy on a football pitch is top class and his playing record is beyond reproach. Anybody thinking about leaving the 90 cap Liverpool captain at home should erase those thoughts from their heads and move on. Also I would be abs amazed if Andy Carroll made the squad after misfiring all season and being low on confidence. I hope and think stats mad Roy will plump for Crouchie in that target man role. His record is incred at international level and obv he's got them robot moves in the locker.

[pleno1]

hes not misfired though, he hardly got a game he isn't the player who plays for 20 minutes. He has also stepped up on the big occasion, semi final, final of fa cup etc.