Euro 2012 line up

[TightEnd]

I would stress I am not happy with Barry as a DM, but struggle to find a better alternative in there in the absence of Wishere

Nor Welbeck, but again not enthralled by any of the non rooney alternatives


Definitely want to set up like the Germans who play Khedira and a second holder in behind Ozil and protect those lumbering centre halves

[Horneris]

Gerrard hasn't been poor this year, he was very poor in the FA cup final but had a great game at Norwich, played well vs Everton in the cup semi and scored a hat trick vs Everton not long ago.

Barry has been excellent for City too, an absolute yardstick, absolute must start player in the big games for England.

Even Camel and Bobby started abusing Terry!!! Our best current centre back by miles. I don't get it, I played centre back for over a decade. His positioning, tackling, heading, talking are all class.

Lets just give them all a break. We're not very good but they should all clearly be in the team

                                   Hart

Richards/Walker    Terry    Cahill/Lescott    Cole
                                                                  
                                Barry                          
                                                                   
                                     Carrick/Parker      
                              Gerrard                              

  Walcott                                           Young                                        
                          Rooney


I despair for when Rooneys not in the team. I hate the guy but I really do question whether Wellbeck/Sturridge are good enough. I'd put Carroll or Crouch in there and maybe play Lampard instead of Carrick/Parker in those games but I wouldn't be too confident.

[Horneris]

FERDINAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABOVE TERRY/LESCOTT.

WHAT IS THIS!!!!!!!

ITS NOT 2003

Gimme a break Tighty/Baron

[horseplayer]

i would not be all together shocked if hodgson gave barry the armband

one of the few players in that squad with a zero ego and has developed under mancini and has been playing really well the last ten weeks or so

[The Baron]

I would stress I am not happy with Barry as a DM, but struggle to find a better alternative in there in the absence of Wishere

Nor Welbeck, but again not enthralled by any of the non rooney alternatives


Definitely want to set up like the Germans who play Khedira and a second holder in behind Ozil and protect those lumbering centre halves

Very much this!

[The Baron]

FERDINAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABOVE TERRY/LESCOTT.

WHAT IS THIS!!!!!!!

ITS NOT 2003

Gimme a break Tighty/Baron

Terry wouldn't go near my squad for Camel's reasons above. I wouldn't take Terry and Ferdinand anyway but with Terry gone Ferdy gets on the plane. I'm not sure anyone is an automatic choice for CB. I agree with all of the above, our squad is awful.

With Terry, I can't dislike someone week in week out, hate everything he stands for, and then support them for England. He's the epitomy of why I've fallen out of love with the England team (along with a few others) If Terry goes I'm supporting Ireland.

[TightEnd]

I'd take Lescott in the XI over Ferdinand, fair enough

I really struggle with terry, not just for the stuff I don't like him for on the field, but I really feel he's lost more than a yard this year, is on the decline and this will be a major champs too far for him


Whoever we pick at the back, I don't think we've got sufficient quality to compete at the business end of the event anyway

[bobby1]

            Hart
Walker  Ferdinand  Cahill      Cole
         Parker    Lampard
              Scholes
Walcott                          Young
               Carroll

Three in midfield for me, Parker to tidy up and Scholes to just do what he does and link the midfield to the forwards/ always available to get the ball. I think the Walker Walcott side could be a bit of a gem as given the way they both attack it will force the oppo to react in their game plan. Hopefully that might give the middle of midfield a little respite .Lampard under strict instructions to help out the Young side when we don't have the ball

I read a great price in the I paper this week that hinted that Hodgsons favoured idea is to attack down one flank and make the other side solid, that way the oppo need to defend your strong attacking side and you stop them down the other flank. Maybe a defensive minded left midfielder instead of Young if you wanted to be a little tighter but not sure we have a perfect fit in that role.

[pleno1]

dont you remember what germany did to Barry, as a centrasl midfielder who played there for 10 years, I can guarantee that he will get tortured if he is next to lampard/gerrard.

[horseplayer]

yes he looked slow and unfit compared to them

looks a lot fitter this season imo and in the game against man united he showed a rare turn of pace

i would not have him in there with gerard or lampard

[bobby1]

dont you remember what germany did to Barry, as a centrasl midfielder who played there for 10 years, I can guarantee that he will get tortured if he is next to lampard/gerrard.

+1 he is only about 1/50 to beat me in a race let alone a top class midfielder. Only way he can possibly be of value is if you stick him in front of the back 4 and tell him not to go anywhere, if you are gong to do that then you might aswell just play an extra defender.

[pleno1]

yes he looked slow and unfit compared to them

looks a lot fitter this season imo and in the game against man united he showed a rare turn of pace

i would not have him in there with gerard or lampard

he was against scholes ffs

[pleno1]

germany

ozil/schweinsteiger/mueller

spain

silva/fabregas/iniesta


we need to have somebody young/mobile or we're fucked.

[FUN4FRASER]

               Hart

Walker    Cahill    Jones    Cole
                

Ox cham  Parker Scholes  Young
                
                Gerrard
 
             Bent/Sturridge

[Josedinho]

                       Hart
Walker   Jagielka       Lescott     Cole
           
            Milner          Jones

Sinclair           Osman              Young
               
                   Roonaldo

Next in line for positions - Richards, Terry, Baines, Parker, Carrick, Oxo, Gerrard, Carroll, Welbeck
Not travelling - Ferdinand, Johnson, Walcott, Crouch