Final 12, shoving range?

[rbc_mike]

$11 tourney, $2.5k up top. 12 left. shoving range here?


PokerStars Hand #81650080348: Tournament #576010584, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (3600/7200) - 2012/06/08 2:29:58 WET [2012/06/07 21:29:58 ET]
Table '576010584 111' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: LifeIsGooddd (88952 in chips)
Seat 2: WATP1873 (167397 in chips)
Seat 4: nik tsi666 (383062 in chips)
Seat 6: Mr Chips 79 (501952 in chips)
Seat 8: barbarawtf (351330 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO (125458 in chips)
LifeIsGooddd: posts the ante 900
WATP1873: posts the ante 900
nik tsi666: posts the ante 900
Mr Chips 79: posts the ante 900
barbarawtf: posts the ante 900
HERO: posts the ante 900
WATP1873: posts small blind 3600
nik tsi666: posts big blind 7200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [X X]
Mr Chips 79: folds
barbarawtf: folds
HERO: raises 117358 to 124558 and is all-in
LifeIsGooddd: folds
WATP1873: folds
nik tsi666: calls 117358

in the hijack, and my stack is ~17.3bb. bb has me covered.

[Longy]

44+, A10+,A9s+,KQ,KJs+

Depending on dynamics you might want to get a touch tighter/looser and maybe r/c or r/f top/bottom parts of our range.

[rbc_mike]

Thanks for the reply, made a mistake in the OP, im actually in the cutoff. how much would you widen your range from 44+, A10+, A9s+,KQ, KJs+?

[PutYouOnAK/AQ]

I don't particularly like shoving this many bbs tbh, people can argue shoving up to 20 bigs but I think thats only really correct when ICM matters to your opponents, but I'm happy to shove up to 15 bigs.

Here I think its more profitable to raise/call with 77+, A9+ and KQ.  Reasoning being, even good players spaz out in these spots and 3bet shove hands like a2 and 78ss + so we may as well raise and give them a chance to shove these hands and call when we're in good shape.

A lot of people would shove 22-66 because they are not comfortable raise calling as they're going to be flipping too much vs opponents 'bluffs'.

Remember what the likely outcome is when you shove 17 bigs.....your only going to get called by strong hands (unless its bvb)

[TL900]

I don't particularly like shoving this many bbs tbh, people can argue shoving up to 20 bigs but I think thats only really correct when ICM matters to your opponents, but I'm happy to shove up to 15 bigs.

Here I think its more profitable to raise/call with 77+, A9+ and KQ.  Reasoning being, even good players spaz out in these spots and 3bet shove hands like a2 and 78ss + so we may as well raise and give them a chance to shove these hands and call when we're in good shape.

A lot of people would shove 22-66 because they are not comfortable raise calling as they're going to be flipping too much vs opponents 'bluffs'.

Remember what the likely outcome is when you shove 17 bigs.....your only going to get called by strong hands (unless its bvb)

this, nice post.

[cambridgealex]

I'd shove 22-66, KT, KJ A7, A8 probably, and raise/call anything better. With a few raise folds of stuff with blockers in like QJ, A2 and K4 for balance.