Hand v Phil Ivey in 10k PLHE

[The Camel]

This was played by a mate in the 10k PLHE yesterday.

I think preflop and flop are pretty standard, although hero could have reraised in both spots, he's a little on the conservative side and he's playing Phil mfkin Ivey.

Hero has approx 40k and Ivey has about the same.

Blinds 400-800.

Everyone passes to Ivey in the sb who makes it 2k to go.

Hero in the BB has   and calls.

Flop  

Ivey bets 2500 hero calls.

Turn   Ivey checks.

Hero?

[George2Loose]

Against who?

[outragous76]

raise pre (and call shove)

Raise flop

ZOMG we have made a flush vs Phil Ivey bvb who cares if the board is paired lets get paiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii (d)

[The Camel]

Meh, yes, he should have reraised pre and on the flop.

But he didn't.

As played, what do we do here?

Pot it?

Half pot?

[George2Loose]

If he's solid a pot bet would look pretty strong. Think 1/3 pot bet

[jezza777]

3.7k trying to pick it up after the check.

[DMorgan]

I don't think it really matters what you do here Keith because your preflop + flop calls make your range completly uncapped. I think he'd expect you to do exactly this with your nutted hands (9x and better) and he won't expect a random (especially with your appearance) to be floating this flop very much if ever.

He's c/folding a huge %age of the time here imo, I guess 1/3rd pot to try and rep 6x/8x and hope that he takes off. The flop flat leaves very little air in your range though, so its gunna be hard to get him to smash much money in.


I think you should 3b-to-5b pre here. Raising the flop I think would be better than flatting and we're happy to get it in vs the numerous FDs that we dominate, some overpairs to the 6 or possibly induce some spaz.

[The Camel]

Yep, he bet 4000.

Ivey called. Pot 17k.

River  

Ivey checks.

What now?

[The Camel]

I don't think it really matters what you do here Keith because your preflop + flop calls make your range completly uncapped. I think he'd expect you to do exactly this with your nutted hands (9x and better) and he won't expect a random (especially with your appearance) to be floating this flop very much if ever.

He's c/folding a huge %age of the time here imo, I guess 1/3rd pot to try and rep 6x/8x and hope that he takes off. The flop flat leaves very little air in your range though, so its gunna be hard to get him to smash much money in.


I think you should 3b-to-5b pre here. Raising the flop I think would be better than flatting and we're happy to get it in vs the numerous FDs that we dominate, some overpairs to the 6 or possibly induce some spaz.

Wasn't me Dan.

English guy of a similar age though.

Flop call could be straight draw, straight draw with over card or Ax?

[outragous76]

check to induce

[DMorgan]

b/fold 8775

Wasn't me Dan.

Its too early in the morning to be reading properly

[The Camel]

b/fold 8775

Wasn't me Dan.

Its too early in the morning to be reading properly

Too good.

Hero bet 9k.

Ivey shoved.

No way we can call, right?

Soul read middle aged Englishman now considering givng up poker.

[outragous76]

terrible spot and board to bet fold IMO

[DMorgan]

terrible spot and board to bet fold IMO

Reasoning?

[SuuPRlim]

Guy, have you lost your brain!

3bet call AJs 50bb's deep vs Ivey in a $10k POT LIMIT HOLDEM event? Must be

This is a spot that is IMPOSSIBLE to bet/call imo, because you CAN have all the best hands, X, 99 96 98 88 etc so it's very very difficult for him so bluff into you when your range can include all the best hands (true he might hero read you for a flush and bluff with a 9, but vs a random player in his eyes and knowing he is Phil Ivey so people are prolly more likely to call vs him I don't think he'll bluff all that often) with no history it's a dreadful board to do anything but fold.

The river bet is quite small though which is the only reason I'm slightly tilted about folding