Andrew Feldman

[Acidmouse]

Its a funny world poker/gambling, the mere fact people want to keep this old fashioned and hush hush means it encourages more to do it. You simply have to take them to court, make him go bankrupt, expose him.

One question Acid.

if you were Feldman, would you be more interested in getting your money back or exposing Zimbler?

I don't think going bankrupt matters nearly as much to a gambler as it does to people in the real world.

If i was loaded I would take them to court even if i knew there was 0% chance of getting my wedge back. It's a matter of principle (if infact he blatently stole from him which it seems).  Someone who manupulates people like that needs a good sweat. I had no idea about Zimbler apart from watching him on TV until i read this thread..

[The Camel]

Its a funny world poker/gambling, the mere fact people want to keep this old fashioned and hush hush means it encourages more to do it. You simply have to take them to court, make him go bankrupt, expose him.

One question Acid.

if you were Feldman, would you be more interested in getting your money back or exposing Zimbler?

I don't think going bankrupt matters nearly as much to a gambler as it does to people in the real world.

If i was loaded I would take them to court even if i knew there was 0% chance of getting my wedge back. It's a matter of principle (if infact he blatently stole from him which it seems).  Someone who manupulates people like that needs a good sweat. I had no idea about Zimbler apart from watching him on TV until i read this thread..

There's the rub.

If Feldman's morals and behaviour hadn't been so questionable in the past, he could have exposed Zimbler without the recourse of taking him to court.

As I said earlier, I have known of literally hundreds of financial disputes between gamblers over the last 20+ years and only Feldman has gone to court.

A sledgehammer to crush a hazelnut imo.

[rfgqqabc]

Its a funny world poker/gambling, the mere fact people want to keep this old fashioned and hush hush means it encourages more to do it. You simply have to take them to court, make him go bankrupt, expose him.

One question Acid.

if you were Feldman, would you be more interested in getting your money back or exposing Zimbler?

I don't think going bankrupt matters nearly as much to a gambler as it does to people in the real world.

If i was loaded I would take them to court even if i knew there was 0% chance of getting my wedge back. It's a matter of principle (if infact he blatently stole from him which it seems).  Someone who manupulates people like that needs a good sweat. I had no idea about Zimbler apart from watching him on TV until i read this thread..

There's the rub.

If Feldman's morals and behaviour hadn't been so questionable in the past, he could have exposed Zimbler without the recourse of taking him to court.

As I said earlier, I have known of literally hundreds of financial disputes between gamblers over the last 20+ years and only Feldman has gone to court.

A sledgehammer to crush a hazelnut imo.

What is he supposed to do if the answer isn't taking him to court?

[titaniumbean]

Yeh Keef I don't know what you'd rather he did. Us online guys haven't had the same gambling upbringing/exposure to criminality as the old guard.

Are you saying he should have got some lads round?

[jack2off]

I want to reply, but it would be controversial and I can't be arsed with it so I'm just going to abbreviate.

TCRDTSB.

How often do financial disputes between Gypsies result in court cases?

There are other simpler, quieter ways of resolving financial disputes.

I can't think of a single example of one Gypsy taking another to court.

I can think of plenty of examples when both parties were taken to court for disturbing the peace while resolving their disputes.

Exactly.

Feldman has achieved nothing by taking Zimbler to court apart from humiliating him.

I happen to think he's made himself look like a whiny tosser too, but that obviously no one agrees with that.

how does he? he was scammed by a man who lost all his money, took 50k, paid off his overdraft, lost 10k, and sent the other 20k to his mate to lose. Can certainly say I'd be doing a lot of whining had I found that out. Wasn't going to mention it at all but really, beggers belief after that court judgement was made public, how is he actually allowed to commentate for companies such as Genting and DTD?!

[jack2off]

Its a funny world poker/gambling, the mere fact people want to keep this old fashioned and hush hush means it encourages more to do it. You simply have to take them to court, make him go bankrupt, expose him.

One question Acid.

if you were Feldman, would you be more interested in getting your money back or exposing Zimbler?

I don't think going bankrupt matters nearly as much to a gambler as it does to people in the real world.

from what I can gather, take this as you like or ask either man yourself. Andrew offered Paul a way out day of the court case for much less than the initial 50k. Im not sure it was about the money, more about the principle and exposing a man he believed had conned him out of 50k. He was to pay half and admit his wrong doings. That would have saved the humiliation of the court case, he decided not to save himself 25k (half the investment back) and let the judge decide!

[The Camel]

Yeh Keef I don't know what you'd rather he did. Us online guys haven't had the same gambling upbringing/exposure to criminality as the old guard.

Are you saying he should have got some lads round?

If he hasn't got the money, how can he pay?

Court case or no court case?

Work out a repayment plan and threaten to expose him if he doesn't stick to it.

I'm not the sort to send the boys round for a quiet word, but I know plenty that would.

But I'm more careful with who I do financial dealings with, I have never been scammed for a significant amount of money since I've been gambling.

[titaniumbean]

Yeh Keef I don't know what you'd rather he did. Us online guys haven't had the same gambling upbringing/exposure to criminality as the old guard.

Are you saying he should have got some lads round?

If he hasn't got the money, how can he pay?

Court case or no court case?

Work out a repayment plan and threaten to expose him if he doesn't stick to it.

I'm not the sort to send the boys round for a quiet word, but I know plenty that would.

But I'm more careful with who I do financial dealings with, I have never been scammed for a significant amount of money since I've been gambling.

You've got more chance of getting your money with a court order than with a quiet word to someone you already have found out you cant trust at all surely?

Similarly it doesn't seem as if he would be that bothered about being exposed, so don't see how that gets you anywhere.

[The Camel]

Its a funny world poker/gambling, the mere fact people want to keep this old fashioned and hush hush means it encourages more to do it. You simply have to take them to court, make him go bankrupt, expose him.

One question Acid.

if you were Feldman, would you be more interested in getting your money back or exposing Zimbler?

I don't think going bankrupt matters nearly as much to a gambler as it does to people in the real world.

from what I can gather, take this as you like or ask either man yourself. Andrew offered Paul a way out day of the court case for much less than the initial 50k. Im not sure it was about the money, more about the principle and exposing a man he believed had conned him out of 50k. He was to pay half and admit his wrong doings. That would have saved the humiliation of the court case, he decided not to save himself 25k (half the investment back) and let the judge decide!

If this is true, I take nearly all of my criticism of Feldman back.

I still wouldn't take Zimbler to court, but it makes it more understandable.

A case for sending someone round for a quiet word is getting more appealing.

[horseplayer]

can understand were keith is coming from even though i think zimbler comes across very badly in the transcript

there are more than a few horse racing related characters over the years that have owed decent amounts of money to eachother or to people you dont want to owe to.

Not many have gone to court

[The Camel]

A very good friend of mine was scammed by another poker player for 75k.

Think it would be a pretty watertight case if he had brought the police in.

He chose not to, if this guy ever cops a huge poker tournament I guess he'll exert a little pressure.

Instead he let everyone know this player is not to be trusted, and he'll have trouble getting credit for the rest of his life.

[The Camel]

Jesus Christ, no one even went to the police / court over Aces Poker.

And if ever people deserved to suffer punishment, it was the guys that pulled off that particular coup.

[action man]

doubt many of the posters on here will know of aces poker

[jack2off]

doubt many of the posters on here will know of aces poker

would like to hear?

[BAM]

Cliffs anyone?

Basically Zimbler and Feldman used to live the same apartment building and were good friends. Then Feldman got a staffordshire bull terrier whom Zimbler believed swallowed an engagement ring he was going to use to propose to his then girlfriend.

Rather than confront him directly about it getting the ring back, Zimbler instead suggested he borrow Feldman's Audi to drive the dog to the vets. He drove off without the dog, and sold the car to a mutual Rabbi friend. Feldman was pissed off obviously and sued him for the value of the car.

Greatest cliffs ever!