Andrew Feldman

[Acidmouse]

No being funny but its a little naive to think forums especially poker/gambling ones don't speculate about know thief's, crooks or questionable characters.

What with all the people coming on saying what nice people both of them are this means the thread is 100% more important it stays and left to be debated. If everyone deleted a thread that contained stuff like this the likes of people willing to scam £50k off suckers every week would be left to flourish without anyone else in the community knowing. Yeah it may not contain truth or facts all the time but we as a forum as capable of deciding what is not fact thank you.

Whats more tilting is people coming forward with some form of character reference for them. Some of the nicest people in the world are the best con artists, rip off merchants will ill intentions. Maybe we should delete all the posts that are simply put on here to boost their characters with glowing remarks about how he did X or Y for me once, or always paid me right away.

Something went down here, the courts alluded to the fact PZ was lets say a little naughty and I want to know about it.

In regards to the other thread regarding non payment of an agreed debt. You can only help someone so much, that thread could have ended on page one by the person in question.

I am not sure what type of person would go ballistic at being named on this thread about having a fake FB account created. Surly that's a good thing people have been informed? and I assume they have already been told about fake FB accounts?

[MANTIS01]

Why don't we just delete everything and then we can all go home?

Forgive me but I get the impression blondepoker is trying hard to be an ickle country cottage with a nice white picket fence and a well tended rose garden. The problem is the world just isn't like that, and I'm quite sure the poker world isn't like that. So the beauty of a forum comes from reflecting the warts and all reality of the real life we all identify with. I would say it is a genuine mistake to think taking stuff away makes the forum more beautiful. Taking away content and polishing what's left to a high shine makes for a less attractive manufactured product.

With this thread the court case is public information. As far as I know neither PZ or AF have exercised their right to post in this thread, the people who keep saying they know stuff haven't posted in this thread, and content has been deleted from this thread. The end result of a lack of facts will be speculation, and hey presto that's what you have. But who has the right to deem that ugly and worth removing from view? If somebody wants to bring facts to the table then good. If not just let people speculate in peace pls. It's what everyday people were doing over the garden fence long before forums were invented.

[tikay]

Why don't we just delete everything and then we can all go home?

Forgive me but I get the impression blondepoker is trying hard to be an ickle country cottage with a nice white picket fence and a well tended rose garden. The problem is the world just isn't like that, and I'm quite sure the poker world isn't like that. So the beauty of a forum comes from reflecting the warts and all reality of the real life we all identify with. I would say it is a genuine mistake to think taking stuff away makes the forum more beautiful. Taking away content and polishing what's left to a high shine makes for a less attractive manufactured product.

With this thread the court case is public information. As far as I know neither PZ or AF have exercised their right to post in this thread, the people who keep saying they know stuff haven't posted in this thread, and content has been deleted from this thread. The end result of a lack of facts will be speculation, and hey presto that's what you have. But who has the right to deem that ugly and worth removing from view? If somebody wants to bring facts to the table then good. If not just let people speculate in peace pls. It's what everyday people were doing over the garden fence long before forums were invented.

Some Content was deleted because it was libellous, contained private contact details, & it advertised false Facebook pages created by disingenuous imposters. Would you wish your telephone number & home address published on blonde? Or comment stating that you were arrested last night?

Other content was deleted because comments such as "PZ/AF is retarded" or "he is a cun*" does not exactly bring much to any adult debate.

Nothing else was deleted, only that sort of thing - of which there was plenty.

[MANTIS01]

Why don't we just delete everything and then we can all go home?

Forgive me but I get the impression blondepoker is trying hard to be an ickle country cottage with a nice white picket fence and a well tended rose garden. The problem is the world just isn't like that, and I'm quite sure the poker world isn't like that. So the beauty of a forum comes from reflecting the warts and all reality of the real life we all identify with. I would say it is a genuine mistake to think taking stuff away makes the forum more beautiful. Taking away content and polishing what's left to a high shine makes for a less attractive manufactured product.

With this thread the court case is public information. As far as I know neither PZ or AF have exercised their right to post in this thread, the people who keep saying they know stuff haven't posted in this thread, and content has been deleted from this thread. The end result of a lack of facts will be speculation, and hey presto that's what you have. But who has the right to deem that ugly and worth removing from view? If somebody wants to bring facts to the table then good. If not just let people speculate in peace pls. It's what everyday people were doing over the garden fence long before forums were invented.

Some Content was deleted because it was libellous, contained private contact details, & it advertised false Facebook pages created by disingenuous imposters.

Other content was deleted because comments such as "PZ/AF is retarded" or "he is a cun*" does not exactly bring much to any adult debate.

Have you ever been to Hampton Court Palace?

[tikay]

Why don't we just delete everything and then we can all go home?

Forgive me but I get the impression blondepoker is trying hard to be an ickle country cottage with a nice white picket fence and a well tended rose garden. The problem is the world just isn't like that, and I'm quite sure the poker world isn't like that. So the beauty of a forum comes from reflecting the warts and all reality of the real life we all identify with. I would say it is a genuine mistake to think taking stuff away makes the forum more beautiful. Taking away content and polishing what's left to a high shine makes for a less attractive manufactured product.

With this thread the court case is public information. As far as I know neither PZ or AF have exercised their right to post in this thread, the people who keep saying they know stuff haven't posted in this thread, and content has been deleted from this thread. The end result of a lack of facts will be speculation, and hey presto that's what you have. But who has the right to deem that ugly and worth removing from view? If somebody wants to bring facts to the table then good. If not just let people speculate in peace pls. It's what everyday people were doing over the garden fence long before forums were invented.

Some Content was deleted because it was libellous, contained private contact details, & it advertised false Facebook pages created by disingenuous imposters.

Other content was deleted because comments such as "PZ/AF is retarded" or "he is a cun*" does not exactly bring much to any adult debate.

Have you ever been to Hampton Court Palace?

Of course! It has lots of lovely white picket fences, too. I live smack next to it actually.

I'll reply on the Diary later.

[smashedagain]

I get pm's daily from people saying blonde is changing etc and as I seem to be the one that pushes the boundaries maybe I should speak up. It does not matter if it's Feldman/Zimbler, RoB/pleno, Alex/pokerwise or me and the mods, a vast majority of people want to see confrontation. There has been far too many posts removed and what appears to be censorship for my liking but even I have to accept what's best for Blonde. That is Dtd's continued sponsorship to keep the site alive and the mods using their better judgement than mine to police the forum.

That's not to say I don't miss Cos or enjoy watching things kick off as much as I enjoy the diaries, tips and all the educational stuff on here.

[TightEnd]

There is a world of difference between censorship, & sensible moderation for the greater good of all parties.

It's a moderated forum, with a sponsorship agreement that is vital for the forum to continue.

If people want confrontation, and at worst to flame and abuse and be flamed and abused back I can PM you the links of many unmoderated poker forums where you and likeminded keyboard warriors can post to your hearts content.

[CHIPPYMAN]

There is a world of difference between censorship, & sensible moderation for the greater good of all parties.

It's a moderated forum, with a sponsorship agreement that is vital for the forum to continue.

If people want confrontation, and at worst to flame and abuse and be flamed and abused back I can PM you the links of many unmoderated poker forums where you and likeminded keyboard warriors can post to your hearts content.

YES PLS ... Not to me though but to Mr. Herbie ..
Much appreciated Rich , can u kindly forward it to him ... Ty ty

[smashedagain]

There is a world of difference between censorship, & sensible moderation for the greater good of all parties.

It's a moderated forum, with a sponsorship agreement that is vital for the forum to continue.

If people want confrontation, and at worst to flame and abuse and be flamed and abused back I can PM you the links of many unmoderated poker forums where you and likeminded keyboard warriors can post to your hearts content.

YES PLS ... Not to me though but to Mr. Herbie ..
Much appreciated Rich , can u kindly forward it to him ... Ty ty

I do look at 2+2 when someone puts a link up but there is just too much traffic for me to keep up. 

[mondatoo]

I really don't think it's about confrontation, although some obv enjoy that.

These threads should be posted, what about cases such as Blatch were people had suspicions and didn't say anything, look how that panned out. Yes, people do make some ridic posts in these types of threads, whilst others just get off on arguing and trolling for the sake of it but that doesn't mean they don't serve a purpose.

As for the Railtard thread, I really couldn't be more confused by the mentallity here. Yes it's blunt, but there are no untruths in the title. Why should the title be worded differently ? It's beyond belief imo tbh, so beyond the realms of normal reality it's absurd.

[leethefish]

I have known PZ and AF personally for 10 years each. AF has won a seat online to the CPP,  so you may be able to ask him in person if you are over there, I think PZ also intends to hop over to St Kitts.

IMO this thread should just have been deleted as soon as it was started, I advised Rich to take it off as it does BP no good having this sort of thread but he said "no" because it would just crop us somewhere else.

But people can discuss this stuff online between themselves via email/FB etc anyway, so no need to have a forum thread.

I feel the same about the "Mark Wright still scamming thread", surely that has to be deleted by now, still on the front page of the forum, its pretty awful title no matter what the ins and outs of the story are and a private matter. I get this thing about the"poker community" policing scammers, but when I have known this to work is when a respected poker figure has been asked to arbitrate a disagreement with all the facts in front of him, not mob rule on a public forum.

TK and Rich are believers if you "dowse the small flame a larger fire will start", but I just think delete these kind of threads and delete any further attempts to debate this stuff on an open forum.

I mean, take these 2 threads, what % of the posters actually know 100% what the facts are and what % of the posters actually know the individuals personally.

I think Rich does a grand job and we all love TK to bits, but I disagree on some of the content that is allowed on here and as TK says, often people are taking everything at face value.

As for 2+2, they should be more responsible aswell TBH

Yes, I am a misery guts sometimes, but all this stuff leaves a bad taste, poor old Lucy Rokach will go ballistic if she sees her name on this thread, and rightly so. Rob

I ain't bankrupt and work extremely hard I wish I could hop over to st kitts

[jack2off]

Ridiculously out of hand now.

Setting up a fake zimbler charity page is pretty low, was particularly impressed when they used my photo on his page.

totally agree with this! although surely most people would realise it wasn't him and surely FB can pass on the info to the relevant people. Pretty sad that it goes that far

[LeedsRhodesy]

He is in gala leeds playing the £20 f/o

[Leatherman]

He is in gala leeds playing the £20 f/o

Pics

[LeedsRhodesy]

He is in gala leeds playing the £20 f/o

Pics

I was at DTD I few of the leeds regs were updating Facebook