missed value??

[parker]

Early in a 180man turbo

PokerStars Hand #81964638330: Tournament #574635866, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/06/15 1:22:25 WET [2012/06/14 20:22:25 ET]
Table '574635866 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: pipikelm (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: GMC20015 (4360 in chips)
Seat 4: Darth Mio (1360 in chips)
Seat 5: mikeyparker (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: SickStep (1820 in chips)
Seat 7: CR Maximum (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: vandry124 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: theacehole35 (1500 in chips)
mikeyparker: posts small blind 10
SickStep: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mikeyparker [ ]
CR Maximum: folds
vandry124 has timed out
vandry124: folds
vandry124 is sitting out
theacehole35: folds
pipikelm: folds
GMC20015: folds
vandry124 has returned
Darth Mio: folds
mikeyparker: raises 30 to 50
SickStep: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [ ]
mikeyparker: bets 60
SickStep: calls 60
*** TURN *** [ ] []
mikeyparker: bets 180
SickStep: calls 180
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
mikeyparker: bets 340
SickStep: calls 340
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikeyparker: shows [ ] (a full house, Eights full of Kings)
SickStep: mucks hand
mikeyparker collected 1260 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1260 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 2: pipikelm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GMC20015 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Darth Mio (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mikeyparker (small blind) showed [ ] and won (1260) with a full house, Eights full of Kings
Seat 6: SickStep (big blind) mucked [td ]
Seat 7: CR Maximum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: vandry124 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: theacehole35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Longy]

I would make it slightly more in spots (60 pre,80 on flop as played), but the hand itself is a pretty simple raise/bet/bet/bet. Making it more on the early streets adds up on the later streets allowing us to inflate the pot.

We can get away with exploitable sizing in these games, as it is full of droolers trying to give it away especially early.

[cambridgealex]

+1, but as played river size is too small, 420 imo.

[parker]

ok reason being??

pre... most of the range he calls with pre we are/will be ahead of so want to pull more value??

river... is a brick. anything he calls on the turn he calls on the river? (that isnt a draw obvs)

[Longy]

ok reason being??

pre... most of the range he calls with pre we are/will be ahead of so want to pull more value??

river... is a brick. anything he calls on the turn he calls on the river? (that isnt a draw obvs)

Yeah basically this. People at this level just love to call and subtle increases in bet sizing when we have it, rarely change their calling range.

[Pugwashed]

ok reason being??

pre... most of the range he calls with pre we are/will be ahead of so want to pull more value??

river... is a brick. anything he calls on the turn he calls on the river? (that isnt a draw obvs)

Yeah basically this. People at this level just love to call and subtle increases in bet sizing when we have it, rarely change their calling range.

Especially in a spot like this where he likely has a pretty strong hand in terms of absolute value as fish just won't fold those. Vs fish its fine to be unbalanced with your bet sizing