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« on: July 14, 2012, 08:49:10 PM »

pre antes, guy is a supernova.

PokerStars Hand #83319749287: Tournament #589010596, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (30/60) - 2012/07/14 21:45:14 CET [2012/07/14 15:45:14 ET]
Table '589010596 11' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mendezoo (4060 in chips)
Seat 2: dbt777 (3860 in chips)
Seat 3: Map97 (4000 in chips)
Seat 4: pads1161 (8100 in chips)
Seat 5: kersepit (2300 in chips)
Seat 6: Vinkyy (8000 in chips)
Seat 7: diegokeep (4460 in chips)
Seat 8: andyhin22 (3940 in chips)
Seat 9: tiger043 (4000 in chips)
Vinkyy: posts small blind 30
diegokeep: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
andyhin22: folds
tiger043: folds
mendezoo: raises 90 to 150
dbt777: folds
Map97: folds
pads1161: calls 150
kersepit: calls 150
Vinkyy: folds
diegokeep: folds
*** FLOP *** [ As ]
mendezoo: bets 282
pads1161: calls 282
kersepit: folds
*** TURN *** [ As ] [Ah]
mendezoo: bets 532
pads1161: calls 532
*** RIVER *** [ As Ah] []
mendezoo: bets 1450
pads1161: folds
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 09:28:12 PM »

looks good
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2012, 11:14:16 PM »

like it, don't give an unknown enough credit to be able to barrel off here without it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2012, 12:24:43 AM »

Yh I fold here, I always fold this spot, every so often I think, you know what I cant fold everytime, today I'm going to be the sherriff and I get shown AQ near on 99% of the time.

88 easy fold what you think of KK?
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 12:32:34 AM »

because of blockers kk is prob less on a fold he can have 88 then too, def abs hating life though, agree 88 is fold.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 01:07:42 AM »

btw lol if you ever get to this river vs me you should always bluff Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 08:20:55 AM »

Sigh and tap the mouse on the pad...
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 08:26:59 AM »

Do we ever 3bet this pre?
His hand looks stronger and stronger and it's clearly a fold by the river.
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 10:50:54 AM »

Do we ever 3bet this pre?

Deffo unneccesary and at this stage we only ever get action from better hands
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2012, 01:05:51 PM »

maybe why i am a fish but so many hands in his range we crush weaker ace KQ tt jj and total air

yeah i aint liking the call but i just dont get the nuts enough to fold these hands

i am guessing this is an easier fold at the higher levels than it is down in the micros
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2012, 01:21:21 PM »

maybe why i am a fish but so many hands in his range we crush weaker ace KQ tt jj and total air

yeah i aint liking the call but i just dont get the nuts enough to fold these hands

i am guessing this is an easier fold at the higher levels than it is down in the micros

Given that he's probably a mass table grinder he isn't opening worse Ax UTG+2 pre antes 9 handed. He might not even open KQo and he's certainly not turning it into a bluff here since our range to call twice is so strong and from his point of view bluffing into that range would be absolutely suicidal because he certainly won't expect us to fold an ace, hence why he absolutely hammers the river.

Actually it would be a pretty decent spot to barrel off with underpairs, KQ etc. but theres no way for him to know that. Against general population tendencies running a 3-barrel bluff here is burning money and mass tabling regs just don't get that out of line pre-antes.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2012, 04:28:40 PM »

hmm is this the 50r during rebuy? mendezoo is one of the looser/crazier regs fwiw. i have an easier time calling in this specific comp
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2012, 07:53:15 PM »

everytime I find myself in these river spots as well the first thing that crosses my mind is jamming as a bluff lol

never do it though, when I jam, I just have Ak lol

nothing like balance izzzit
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