No-Limit v Pot-Limit

[4dam]

I think pl is the game with more skill. As we have been against the guy who pushes it allin with KQs under the gun. Thinking it is a big hand. Forcing yourself to fold AQ. Where nl you can call and not worry about ending your tournie.

I know a guy at my local casino he has never won a pl tournie. But has won quiet a few nl. reason being he will push it allin with crap, he has no fear about risking it all with pocket . but in pl he cant use that power of pushing it allin and pushing better hands out of the pot.

So i think nl can give a weak player the advantage of not playing flops, And lets face it a better player wants to play flops and the streets against a poor player. Would youu want to risk your tournie on AK to an allin bet before you. I think not as its only ace high after all.


4dam

[snoopy1239]

Mike Matasow wouldn't fair as well in pot-limit.

His game seems to be about using chips to his advantage, making big moves when he sense weakness.

I consider him to be a very skillfull player.

[mikkyT]

Using sheer aggression to your advantage is certainly a skill. But not the only skill. Certainly pot limit weights in favour of the finer poker skills, at least earlier on when blinds are low

[snoopy1239]

I just think that being about to find weakness in people is a big skill in poker. Pot-limit can sometimes make it hard to push people off hands.

I'm still undecided though. Mainly because my big wins have been in no limit. 

[4dam]

next time you are at your casino look at the final tables of trhe nolimit and pot limit games you will notice there always seems to be a few more weaker players on the nl then there is on the pl final table.

[snoopy1239]

next time you are at your casino look at the final tables of trhe nolimit and pot limit games you will notice there always seems to be a few more weaker players on the nl then there is on the pl final table.

Hey, I'm always on the no limit final table and never on the pot limit one. 

[BigArmo]

I'm in the PL is more skillful camp.
2 reason really.

1. Its harder to bully in the first few levels i.e pot size to chip stack ratio.

2.in NL its easier for bad players to loose chips to bad players i.e all in preflop with AK with blinds at 25/50.

Plus you do seem to get the same faces at the PL(live) final tables(never mine  ), i get ouyplayed alot in PL but not as much in NL i usually know where i am.

WSOP PL Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i'll never win it  .

BA

[The Baron]

Hmmm....

I think at the highest levels there isn't much to choose between them.

Someone like Lindgren who playsall the streets and has little fear (and a huge bankroll) is amazing to watch at NL. At this extremely high level of poker the "all-in merchants" struggle to get paid off.

Here is where I think it's splitting hairs.

[Newmanseye]

I can play both pot limit and no limit well, ( i await mikkyT's remarks ) However In th elowere levels of pot limit, people just want to go all in anyways. Also monster preflop hand lose some of their value. which in turn helps when up against a mug that cant realise he's beat although he has aces. Each of the games have their own unique traits that call on different skills and skill sets, Pot limit means to loosen up a little and ease up on the aggression. No limit Call everone fish and act like the school bully, even if you have the short stack.

I like both games however my preference is No limit, Its easier to bluff ( when you need to ), You can trap the "all in merchants easier " and the dynamic changes constantly on No limit, I believe for these reasons NLH requires more of your skills at the poker table.

To be honest though its all about personal opinion and preference.

 

[wsopin07]

I can not explain it but I have played 3 pot limit events in my life and:

1) 1st wsop
2) 3rd in Paris during WPT
3) 5th at Ballys Las Vegas wsop circuit event

does pot limit hold me back because I usually play to aggresive???   do I slow down my thinking?? I dont know but results are results

[thetank]

I agree that P/L requires more skill.

You'll see much more dead money at N/L final tables than you will at P/L ones.

[Newmanseye]

I can not explain it but I have played 3 pot limit events in my life and:

1) 1st wsop
2) 3rd in Paris during WPT
3) 5th at Ballys Las Vegas wsop circuit event

does pot limit hold me back because I usually play to aggresive???   do I slow down my thinking?? I dont know but results are results

 I personally like your style for pot limit its like my own, Bust the Rocks with less than premium hands and get in cheap, all that stuff, I even introduce it to a tight No limit table, however in no limit the most important aspect is changing gear (IMO) as the dynamic changes so frequently.

Your style is probably best suited to pot limit, I say that cos I dont want you near my no limit table  

Like I said its all about preference.

[Newmanseye]

I agree that P/L requires more skill.

You'll see much more dead money at N/L final tables than you will at P/L ones.

If you keep that up, I'll be the one getting the talcum oot.

 

[thetank]

It has been said that you get a guy in from the street, put him in a pot limit comp and he's dead money. Put him in a no limit comp and he's dangerous.

Can't remember who said that, but I tend to agree.


Don't get me wrong, to play N/L still requires a great deal of skill, but the clueless moos still stand a chance. Probably because there are more desicions on more streets in P/L dumming down the luck factor.

[londonpokergirl]

I prefer pot limit to no limit.  Definate more skill needed, and more trapping with big hands