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« on: July 23, 2012, 04:17:26 AM »
Am usually pretty good with these but this one had me a little stumped...

Have had several people I respect come up with different answers so figured I would see what you guys think...

No real background on this one... I lost a 1.5m chip flip at 12500/25000 to leave me with 10BB but have played solidly since with none of my open shoves being called.

PokerStars Hand #83718696297: Tournament #590010447, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XLIII (17500/35000) - 2012/07/22 22:26:34 ET
Table '590010447 177' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: PizzicatoXev (455049 in chips)
Seat 3: binhoeiji (2032658 in chips)
Seat 4: Thielon123 (701861 in chips)
Seat 5: meteze (675096 in chips)
Seat 6: Gruaiggorm (402353 in chips)
Seat 7: GS_LT (920686 in chips)
Seat 8: Kabira (715286 in chips)
Seat 9: grigorq77 (1978011 in chips)
PizzicatoXev: posts the ante 4375
binhoeiji: posts the ante 4375
Thielon123: posts the ante 4375
meteze: posts the ante 4375
Gruaiggorm: posts the ante 4375
GS_LT: posts the ante 4375
Kabira: posts the ante 4375
grigorq77: posts the ante 4375
Kabira: posts small blind 17500
grigorq77: posts big blind 35000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PizzicatoXev [Two Diamonds two hearts]
PizzicatoXev:
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 05:48:53 AM »
Haven't looked at these numbers in a while but I think this is a pretty clear fold. Probably folding 55 too.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 08:15:23 AM »
Quote from: DMorgan on July 23, 2012, 05:48:53 AM
Haven't looked at these numbers in a while but I think this is a pretty clear fold. Probably folding 55 too.

sounds good
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 10:35:54 AM »
ya snap fold, im prob 77+
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 10:54:07 AM »
in these spots does 22 > 66/77 or not?
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 11:03:16 AM »
Quote from: TL900 on July 23, 2012, 10:35:54 AM
ya snap fold, im prob 77+

maybe 66+ thought we had more bb
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 11:10:31 AM »
Quote from: pleno1 on July 23, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
in these spots does 22 > 66/77 or not?

how can 22 > 66/77?
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 11:33:54 AM »
deffo fold.. 66+ is all in
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 01:10:51 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on July 23, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
in these spots does 22 > 66/77 or not?

^level?Huh??

66+ sounds reasonable
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2012, 01:45:44 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on July 23, 2012, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: pleno1 on July 23, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
in these spots does 22 > 66/77 or not?

how can 22 > 66/77?

Must be an = sign right? In which case, its almost true
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2012, 02:32:38 PM »
no, was being retarded about wheel blockers rofl, but forgot counterfeits.


i iz fish yo.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2012, 03:17:28 PM »
payouts?

I jam. You are shortstack, there is no1 about to bust on blinds or anything. Adding 20% to stack is significant.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2012, 07:53:28 PM »
Quote from: dakky on July 23, 2012, 03:17:28 PM
payouts?

8th locked up for $3809
7th - $6436
6th - $9063
5th- 11690
4th - 15367
3rd - 22329
2nd - 31174
1st - 41507

I folded and was fairly happy about it but when smokrokflock says its a def shove I have to consider it...
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 04:24:23 AM »
Quote from: PizzicatoXev on July 23, 2012, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: dakky on July 23, 2012, 03:17:28 PM
payouts?

I folded and was fairly happy about it but when smokrokflock says its a def shove I have to consider it...

reasons?
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 04:38:13 AM »
Quote from: TL900 on July 24, 2012, 04:24:23 AM
Quote from: PizzicatoXev on July 23, 2012, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: dakky on July 23, 2012, 03:17:28 PM
payouts?

I folded and was fairly happy about it but when smokrokflock says its a def shove I have to consider it...

reasons?

Yeah wish I could answer that.../sigh
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