Fantasy Premier League 2012/13

[Horneris]

fuck off Michu

[dino1980]

Can you rollover the wildcard? I.e save it up or does it expire before window ends?

Pretty certain that you get one wildcard that can be used at any stage of the season and one that has to be used between Jan 1st and Jan 31st.

I think there's merits to both using your wildcard early and saving it, off the top of my head.

Early - bandwagons are bigger at the start of the season as more casual players still playing, more people have their wildcard to use and players emerge as fantasy prospects from nowhere. Therefore if you want to you can take advantage of big price rises in the popular players and add value to your team. Dazzler made a post last season about each extra 1m in team value being worth 10 points IIRC.

Later - Can take advantage of double game weeks, of course you have to clean the mess up later! And if chasing a lead in a mini league can tailor your team to this end.

[Teacake]

fuck off Michu

I left him on the bench, couldn't decide between him and Nolan. That's me left Dyer on the bench  for 15 points  and Michu this week for 16. And that little rodent Suarez can fuck right off, I held off for weeks bringing him in because he was on a suspension but felt I had to bring him in this week and captained him.

Raging with myself.

[dino1980]

fuck off Michu

I left him on the bench, couldn't decide between him and Nolan. That's me left Dyer on the bench  for 15 points  and Michu this week for 16. And that little rodent Suarez can fuck right off, I held off for weeks bringing him in because he was on a suspension but felt I had to bring him in this week and captained him.

Raging with myself.

+1 to the Suarez rage, I got him in for Rooney. Marv.

[Karabiner]

fuck off Michu

I left him on the bench, couldn't decide between him and Nolan. That's me left Dyer on the bench  for 15 points  and Michu this week for 16. And that little rodent Suarez can fuck right off, I held off for weeks bringing him in because he was on a suspension but felt I had to bring him in this week and captained him.

Raging with myself.

I did the same thing myself this week with Suarez after resisting for ages even paying -4 for the privilege and giving up on Torres, obviously Torres scores points and rodent-features picks up a ban. Just to malke things worse the spuds missing link goes and gets injured too.

 

[Junior Senior]

Lifted off the site

You can play 2 wildcards a season.One wildcard can be played at any time. The January Wildcard can only be used after Gameweek 21 starts (1 Jan 11:30) until Gameweek 24 ends (2 Feb 11:30).

Wildcards are played on the transfers page but aren't active until you have confirmed the transfers.

[TheDazzler]

Leader is doing an Acey.
5 transfers so far.
Nice of the top 2 to give back all these points

I had 2 frees but yeah I've spent -12 which I'm not happy at all about but I didn't want to use my wildcard and am extremely happy with my team for the next 6 or 7 gameweeks now. Sucks most for the H2H league.

If I lose in the H2H match now then I may have to shoot myself!

Interesting decision not to use the wildcard, especially with the window one still to come.  It's an interesting feature of the game, and there must be tonnes of theories out there on this (now awaiting TheDazzler's reply on this!)

Well it's an interesting one for sure whether he should have used the wildcard or not.
He didn't use it and the transfers made cost him 12 points. So the question is, is a wildcard worth more than 12 points? There are a huge amount of variables involved in the answer to that, so the boring answer is, it depends.
A wildcard is clearly worth more to a team that is a really unbalanced, generally poor side than a good side, as you can make more improvements. A wildcard is worth more played early than late if your team EV increases by a couple of points per week which accumalates and stacks up over time. And a wildcard may be detrimental to your score in the short term but positive in the longterm or vice versa due to the variance in the game.
If he had used his wildcard his 'saved' 2 free transfers would have been lost to him next week so that would have sucked. All in all, if I had to pull a figure out of my ass, I would guestimate a wildcard to be worth 20-25 points so I think he was right not to use it.

As for Junior Seniors comment on me saying £1m in team value being worth 10 points, I was referring to it being worth that midway thru the season. At the start of the season each £1m is roughly worth 20 points. A lot of variables in that too but it's a good benchmark figure.

[Sheriff Fatman]

Interesting stuff, thanks.

My attitude on the wildcard has changed over the seasons.  In the early years, I avoided using it for too long, to the point where I questioned whether I was getting enough benefit from it (this was before they added the 2nd one in the transfer window).

Nowadays, I kind of feel it's wasted if I don't utilise it in the first half of the season, although I don't go out of my way to do this unless a major change is needed.  It's a 'nice to have' late in the season if you're in contention down the line and it could be the difference maker at that stage (and to be fair to Horneris, this is a position he's generally in so his mindset might be totally different to mine), but I'm not as protective of it as I used to be.  That's why I found Brent's decision this week so intriguing, as I'd either be using it on a 5 transfer week or trying to figure out ways to avoid doing 5 transfers in a week where I could make two for free.

The general point was though, was that there doesn't seem to be an obvious consensus opinion from the 'serious players/studiers' on what timing maximises the utility of the wildcard.  Obviously the key to it is still to hope that your players don't get injured/suspended immediately after you've played it!

[Teacake]

It's like most things it depends on the situation you find yourself in.

Ideally you want to hold on to it as long as possible. If your team is doing well from the start then a tinker here and there is the way to go but if you start badly its hard to resist jumping on the early season bandwagons and adding value to your squad.I certainly wouldn't be using my first one between now and the transfer window one kicking in. There are specific weeks that are more beneficial to use the wild cards than others.

For what it's worth I have never had mine after week 7 and its usually used before week 4 but I always start shit and come like a train at the end.

[Linux]

Brent said a wildcard is worth 50 points (lol) any more views on this?

[Horneris]

Brent said a wildcard is worth 50 points (lol) any more views on this?

I'm sure thats what The Dazzler said last season at some point!

[TheDazzler]

Brent said a wildcard is worth 50 points (lol) any more views on this?

I'm sure thats what The Dazzler said last season at some point!

Did I? Maybe I did.
It's at the high end alright but it's possible it's worth that to a really bad team.
If your team is in the absolute crapper, suspensions, injuries, players not 1st choice anymore and you basically need to make 14 transfers then that is (13 x 4) = 52 points. So to a really bad team it could be worth 50 points.
I just had a quick look at your team Horneris and no offence but I find it horrific.
If I had your team, I would be immediately wildcarding and would be looking to do 11 transfers, so it would be worth 40 points to me.
But if you decided to wildcard, you might quite like the look of your team and only change 6 players and therefore the same wildcard for the same team is only worth 20 points to you.
Opinions, eh.

Edit: I should probably note that if I find your team 'horrific' and it's 81 points in front of me, I don't even know how I could describe my own team. Mind-boggingly poor, perhaps.

[Horneris]

lol nice try

[Junior Senior]

I have usually used my wildcard by week three. Iirc used it week two this season

[TheDazzler]

lol nice try

I'm not trying to get you to use your wildcard. I'm just saying what I would do if I was in your situation and illustrating the point that a wildcard could be of different value to different people, even if they had identical teams.
But you said you were happy with team, so in that case I would not advise you to use it.

I have usually used my wildcard by week three. Iirc used it week two this season

On this point, I have in the past couple of years used my wildcard in the 1st international window. This season, that was the end of GW3 going into GW4.
In a vacuum, I think this is probably the best time to use it (I decided to hold onto it this year which probably didn't work out well for me).
You have 2 weeks between the gameweeks, due to the internationals, and a lot of people are re-organising their teams, using wildcards, getting on the hottest bandwagons. It is probably the biggest single gameweek for transfer activity of the season and the ups and downs of transfer values is at its highest.
If you simply buy all the players that are going up in value for the first 13 days of the gameweek, then sell all the players you don't want (and bank the profit) and then buy the actual team you want the night before GW4 starts, your team value should have increased significantly and £ = points.