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« on: July 26, 2012, 12:35:10 PM »

$33 Reg Speed Final Table (142 runners)

Both villains are fish. The bb villain has been seen to open jam 40bbs pre on the FT bubble, and he click-raise 4b me a couple of hands previously from MP to which I folded.

Thoughts on whole hand (except pre obv)


PokerStars Hand #83865009886: Tournament #591010164, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2012/07/26 12:06:48 WET [2012/07/26 7:06:48 ET]
Table '591010164 6' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Duder83 (37242 in chips)
Seat 2: RONALDO10610 (55810 in chips)
Seat 3: MacintoshFan (20371 in chips)
Seat 4: epitomised (56323 in chips)
Seat 5: rnoord (29690 in chips)
Seat 6: AsjBaaaf (92397 in chips)
Seat 7: vanner1988 (50164 in chips)
Seat 8: gruzovik666 (18037 in chips)
Seat 9: wizko (65966 in chips)
Duder83: posts the ante 125
RONALDO10610: posts the ante 125
MacintoshFan: posts the ante 125
epitomised: posts the ante 125
rnoord: posts the ante 125
AsjBaaaf: posts the ante 125
vanner1988: posts the ante 125
gruzovik666: posts the ante 125
wizko: posts the ante 125
Duder83: posts small blind 600
RONALDO10610: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to epitomised [ As]
MacintoshFan: folds
epitomised: raises 1260 to 2460
rnoord: folds
AsjBaaaf: folds
vanner1988: folds
gruzovik666: folds
wizko: calls 2460
Duder83: folds
RONALDO10610: calls 1260
*** FLOP *** [ ]
RONALDO10610: checks
epitomised: checks
wizko: bets 7200
RONALDO10610: calls 7200
epitomised: calls 7200
*** TURN *** [ ] []
RONALDO10610: bets 1200
epitomised: raises 12000 to 13200
wizko: folds
RONALDO10610: raises 12000 to 25200
epitomised:
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2012, 12:49:11 PM »

id probs just bet the flop and go from there. I feel like theres plenty of hands that fish will call you with that are worse.  I have no idea why you would raise the turn after check/overcalling the flop, seems like a call to me. you have to fold now i think.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2012, 02:24:15 PM »

id probs just bet the flop and go from there. I feel like theres plenty of hands that fish will call you with that are worse.  I have no idea why you would raise the turn after check/overcalling the flop, seems like a call to me. you have to fold now i think.

It felt like calling a min-bet on the turn was super weak, and could put me in tough spots when wizko raises. I guess I was doing it so I could comfortably fold to any further aggressive action.

Admittedly I may well have botched this hand.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2012, 03:31:19 PM »

why raise turn?

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2012, 03:40:41 PM »

It felt like calling a min-bet on the turn was super weak, and could put me in tough spots when wizko raises. I guess I was doing it so I could comfortably fold to any further aggressive action.

Admittedly I may well have botched this hand.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2012, 05:10:18 PM »

100% bet flop, get called by all other Ax pairs with diamonds etc

Call turn as played, now follow your guess and comfortably fold to further aggressive action.






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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2012, 05:47:25 PM »

100% bet flop, get called by all other Ax pairs with diamonds etc

Call turn as played, now follow your guess and comfortably fold to further aggressive action.








ye +1 on this for me
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2012, 06:29:46 PM »

4799/s ap otf
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 05:52:56 AM »

100% bet flop, get called by all other Ax pairs with diamonds etc

Call turn as played, now follow your guess and comfortably fold to further aggressive action.








ye +1 on this for me
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2012, 03:18:53 AM »

+1 to bet flop. Let them smash it in with the naked

I think we have to consider jamming the flop. Looks like a bit of an overbet but its <pot and its hard to imagine described villains folding the , they can decide you have the and call it off with worse Ax no diamond hands and you have equity against everything but the flopped nuts.

As played I think turn is a fold. He isn't bluffing, I'd imagine villain has a flush always.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 10:54:39 AM »

I quite like checking the flop too, I think I'd check the flop more often than cbet because of stack sizes tbh. The way the hand is played out the turn is a clear fold, I very likely flat the turn min then try and get value on a large majority of rivers (by betting to a check or making a large raise on another min/small lead). I don't think  we can feasibly check flop then bet so big on the turn as we look so strong and lose action from the majority of hands we beat I feel. That being said, if I do cbet the flop I will most likely be looking for 3 streets on the majority of boards, I think our flop action is crucial to what we rep, what we do on the turn/river and the range of hands we can get villain(s) to continue with.  Good post, these spots can be really tough on soft finals
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