WALSALL COMP

[MANTIS01]

I played a hand last night which is still bugging me so would like some opinions.

The tournament is a £10k guarantee with £100 buy-in at my favourite Walsall Grosvenor casino. You start with 11k in chips on a 30 mins clock. They run some £5 sats for the comp so it's pretty soft. My experience of this event is that it's fishy with randoms falling in love with any ace and calling all three streets so bluffing is generally out of the question early and bet sizing is all over the place.

It's about two rounds in at 25/50 and I'm yet to play a hand. Random villain raises to 300 from mp and it's folded around to me in bb. I look down at  and default flat. Later on I would raise but early on I always call. Thoughts about that line pls?

  

I check to villain who bets 500 and then I raise to 1300. Villain calls.

 

What's the best strat here pls?

[GreekStein]

why did u raise flop?

[smashedagain]

why did u raise flop?

you are always having a dig at mantis

[Ant040689]

i would have played it by calling pre, calling flop, assessing turn and if he bets 3/4 or higher of the pot i am assuming he has two pair AJ/A10 or QK, or has made a possible flush. As he must know you have connected nicely with the flop for you to have called. If he checks back the turn then you may be in with a shout to lay a nice value bet on the river and if he re raises that you are probably in trouble.

[pleno1]

why did u raise flop?

you are always having a dig at mantis

hes asking something constructive, i.e finding out reasons for doing something and I assume will give advice later why its wrong/not optimal.

Can you just leave one thread alone without trying to cause arguments? Seriously, its extremely annoying and just makes the whole place a worse place to be.

[smashedagain]

why did u raise flop?

you are always having a dig at mantis

hes asking something constructive, i.e finding out reasons for doing something and I assume will give advice later why its wrong/not optimal.

Can you just leave one thread alone without trying to cause arguments? Seriously, its extremely annoying and just makes the whole place a worse place to be.

stop being so serious just coz i wanked it into you. they both know its a joke that they both will appreciate and i even put a smiley.

if you want me to leon knight your arse carry on.

[MANTIS01]

why did u raise flop?

Pretty much for value. In the early stages qualifiers burn chips by calling with third pair or because they think you're 'at it'. I sit there and see the people limp for 50 and call 600 without blinking an eye. Also, the guy called a cr before wit 9-9 on a AQ3 board.

btw np herbie I lolled, but what about the hand??

[smashedagain]

why did u raise flop?

Pretty much for value. In the early stages qualifiers burn chips by calling with third pair or because they think you're 'at it'. I sit there and see the people limp for 50 and call 600 without blinking an eye. Also, the guy called a cr before wit 9-9 on a AQ3 board.

btw np herbie I lolled, but what about the hand??

yeah so did cos....never read pha coz i just confuse people as well as myself

edit. i always read it. i have some sort of ocd that has to read every post here. i just never like to comment.

[TightEnd]

If you play trappy pre, does it not make sense to check-call flop, evaluate turn?

You have a choice to play a big pot pre, you choose to small ball then change engines post flop?


(apologies if this is crap, just imo!)

[pleno1]

pre definitely isn't trappy imo, I would call here, if we 3bet and get 4bet life sucks and he has 6x'd pre.

on the flop, i would continue to just call, our hand is only a bluff catcher here, inflating the pot is n't going to be a great idea.

i think turn is a pretty easy c/f

[MANTIS01]

If you play trappy pre, does it not make sense to check-call flop, evaluate turn?

You have a choice to play a big pot pre, you choose to small ball then change engines post flop?


(apologies if this is crap, just imo!)

No no happy to accept I muffed up the hand. Building a pot when the qualifiers are splashing around seemed like a good idea.

[TightEnd]

If you play trappy pre, does it not make sense to check-call flop, evaluate turn?

You have a choice to play a big pot pre, you choose to small ball then change engines post flop?


(apologies if this is crap, just imo!)

No no happy to accept I muffed up the hand. Building a pot when the qualifiers are splashing around seemed like a good idea.

but the flop is quite draw heavy

Call flop, build on turn if its blank-ish?

[muckthenuts]

Raising flop is good and better than calling. Check fold now, really bad card.

[Tal]

I played this comp yesterday (don't think I was the Villain in this one lol) for the first time.

I wouldn't worry about what Villain thinks you have when you have made your action on the flop. I didn't get the impression that this was a key feature of the analysis of the majority of players there.

If the Villain is still firing when the scare card comes, in this sort of comp, I'd lean towards fold. Plenty of spots to pick up chips from the next hand onwards. Agree with pleno1's analysis.

I hadn't realised so many people had qualified through a sat. Would def play the comp again, although I found the amount of angry exchanges, criticism and angle shooting eye-rollingly irksome.

I'm sure none of it you, Mantis. Tikay speaks so highly of you. 

[skolsuper]

Zomg, mantis actually playing poker!

If you're right about him calling any old shit on the flop, bet again on the turn for value and fold to a raise.