Black Belt Poker Nottingham Live II

[cambridgealex]

I wouldn't call it fashionable to open Q8hh from 18bbs against calling stations, but I was the cutoff, two tight players to my left, one station, and I was pretty confident I was going to flop a huge draw...

[The Camel]

Maybe the answer to encourage people to buyin online by giving them a golden chip or whatever?

But let people buyin in cash on the day if they want.

[rfgqqabc]

I didn't even know it was 16% for EPTs to be honest. I know that all online and live comps I've ever played have been 10-12% so 18 is a long way off, yes.

Surely it's better that I posted after the event than before when you're trying to promote it?

Don't check the lobby much on stars then?

14.9% on the 3 tournies i could arsed to do, field size varying from 1.5k to 9k

[cambridgealex]

Maybe the answer to encourage people to buyin online by giving them a golden chip or whatever?

But let people buyin in cash on the day if they want.

seems like a good solution

[Skippy]

I wouldn't call it fashionable to open Q8hh from 18bbs against calling stations, but I was the cutoff, two tight players to my left, one station, and I was pretty confident I was going to flop a huge draw...

This is like one of those fishermen's tales when the fish gets bigger and bigger as the story gets retold. Tell us about this any more time and you'll be raising it from the small blind when the big blind was off powdering their nose.

[George2Loose]

I wouldn't call it fashionable to open Q8hh from 18bbs against calling stations, but I was the cutoff, two tight players to my left, one station, and I was pretty confident I was going to flop a huge draw...

This is like one of those fishermen's tales when the fish gets bigger and bigger as the story gets retold. Tell us about this any more time and you'll be raising it from the small blind when the big blind was off powdering their nose.

Standard Goulderments. He told me and Keith about a HH from 1k wsop event which kept changing

[cambridgealex]

I wouldn't call it fashionable to open Q8hh from 18bbs against calling stations, but I was the cutoff, two tight players to my left, one station, and I was pretty confident I was going to flop a huge draw...

This is like one of those fishermen's tales when the fish gets bigger and bigger as the story gets retold. Tell us about this any more time and you'll be raising it from the small blind when the big blind was off powdering their nose.

Standard Goulderments. He told me and Keith about a HH from 1k wsop event which kept changing

FFS! When did this story change? I'm my blog I reported it as "late position, hijack or cutoff". And now I've just said cutoff. Go on then shoot me. Oh and I didn't mention about the tight blinds. I didn't say they were ridic aggro though did I?

The story hasn't changed I've just included more details this time round. Jeez. Internet Police were so much cooler in 2011.

[George2Loose]

Dude check the view again.

[cambridgealex]

Dude check the view again.

It's pitch black...

[Junior Senior]

I really don't understand. I totally get it that some people are a bit hand to mouth. They often have over 50% of their "bankroll" invested in the next tournament, they don't own a credit card, they use uKash vouchers and they don't have a bank account.

 I reckon you are a guy with a laptop and a desktop who plays online, has a bank account,once opened an account with Stars and could would have the skillset to do it again if necessary Greg? How is such a hurdle for you to buy-in online?

 In a world where people fly to South America to pay 20% tax on their winnings is an event down the road with a massive overlay really that bad?

 I understand that having a facility to buy-in on the day would eliminate the guarantee but it would also eliminate a lot of the reason we run the tournament. The first category of guy is not going to do much to cover our bills and we aren't getting the benefits of filling DTD that Rob is.

Didn't say it was a massive hurdle just merely giving the view that this would be one of the reasons people didn't play.  It wouldn't stop me. Had I been available for the weekend I would have gone through the process but many wouldn't because they do not want to be forced down that route. I would rather not have to both though.... There are a lot of the old timer locals that don't want lots of online accounts and don't play online that would have flicked it in but maybe you don't need those guys anyway in the long run so whatever. Just trying to give you a different slant on some of the local live players psychology

[robyong]

Sorry Neil, it's DTD, we are just jinxed with Overlays. See you in London for a cash game soon

[1tripz1]

I feel I should come in here and defend Neil a little as people are being critical without seeing the bigger picture.

You're completely missing the point of these tournaments when you say allow cash buy-ins. It can only devalue the business in the long run even if it saves a potential overlay on the day. As Neil says, the moment you allow some people to do this, almost everyone is going to do it. BBP is an online poker site, not a tour, so they need people to register online.

Let's go into more detail. Neil states their last event broke the guarantee (wp). Sure there were probably costs involved with the event, but hopefully the profit generated from the new and reactivated players made it worth while.

Now let's have a few fictional BBP events.

Event 1 is heading for a small overlay, but the long term profit made by the new and reactivated players online makes up for that.

Event 2 is heading for a larger overlay. They open up cash buy-ins and break even on the guarantee. Less profit is made on new/reactivated players.

Event 3 advertises cash only buy-ins from the start. BBP get 80% less online registrations. They make the guarantee, but now have a much smaller long term profit generated from the few players who registered online.

So to summarise, overlays (obviously not as big as last weekends) aren't always going to be a bad thing for BBP, especially compared to the impact a huge reduction in online registrations have.

[LB44]

Alex v Channing heads up for rollz......

 

[TL900]

Alex v Channing heads up for rollz......

 

1/3 Channing
5/2 Mr Know-All

ill take 5/2 if your offering

[tonytats]

  I do find it odd that over 100 players came to each of the £50 events at DTD that ran during our event but few of those played our's 1st.

Maybe because you can play 4 tourneys at 50£ with regular players you know ,rather than 1 event featuring a lot of pros / semi pros / better players who will put you under pressure making it less enjoyable ?