Hoy v Redgrave

[smashedagain]

I assume all Sir Steves golds where team/pairs events. How many of Chris Hoys are individual ones please

[The Camel]

Fairly sure it was harder to win his golds than it was for hoy.

Hoy has got his golds in a variety of different disciplines.

Sprinting, Keiren, TT.

All require a different set of skills (apart from riding a bike really really quickly).

Also think cycling is alot more competitive than rowing.

Wouldn't put Ainslie on a par with either even if he wins in Rio.

Not really, they are all just a sprint at the end of a few laps at the end of the day.

Time trialling involves keeping an even speed for as long as possible.

Keiren involves alot more tactics than sprinting.

[77dave]

Redgrave did 4 different events in the olympics, inc a gold and bronze doing 2 events in 1988

[Woodsey]

Fairly sure it was harder to win his golds than it was for hoy.

Hoy has got his golds in a variety of different disciplines.

Sprinting, Keiren, TT.

All require a different set of skills (apart from riding a bike really really quickly).

Also think cycling is alot more competitive than rowing.

Wouldn't put Ainslie on a par with either even if he wins in Rio.

Not really, they are all just a sprint at the end of a few laps at the end of the day.

Time trialling involves keeping an even speed for as long as possible.

Keiren involves alot more tactics than sprinting.

Still don't agree, its still a sprint at the end of a few short laps irrespective of the actual event. If he was that versatile he would probably be in the last leg of the team persuit. His forte is blasting the shit out of it on the last part of short events.

[The Camel]

Redgrave did 4 different events in the olympics, inc a gold and bronze doing 2 events in 1988

Don't think there's as much difference between coxless fours and coxed fours as the difference between Hoy's events.

[77dave]

Redgrave did 4 different events in the olympics, inc a gold and bronze doing 2 events in 1988

Don't think there's as much difference between coxless fours and coxed fours as the difference between Hoy's events.

granted but i dont think most people realise he actually won gold in 3 different events.

[nirvana]

Swimmers are great athletes obv, so are cyclists. But the multi discipline nature of the support somehwat devalues their massive hauls of medals if you try comparisons.

eg Phelps v Bolt over the last 2 olympics. Bolt's achievement is greater no ?

[celtic]

Jade Jones >>>>>>>>> any other Olympian

[Woodsey]

Jade Jones >>>>>>>>> any other Olympian

Have a tommy and get over it 

[Jon MW]

Swimmers are great athletes obv, so are cyclists. But the multi discipline nature of the support somehwat devalues their massive hauls of medals if you try comparisons.

eg Phelps v Bolt over the last 2 olympics. Bolt's achievement is greater no ?

What is Bolt's achievement? 2 World records at the same time, retaining his olympic titles?

It's impressive but I'm pretty sure there have been plenty of other sports people who have done the same

[The Camel]

Redgrave did 4 different events in the olympics, inc a gold and bronze doing 2 events in 1988

Don't think there's as much difference between coxless fours and coxed fours as the difference between Hoy's events.

granted but i dont think most people realise he actually won gold in 3 different events.

I thought the question was "who did we think was the greatest Olympian" not "who do we think the public think is the greatest Olympian".

The answer to the second question is obviously Redgrave due to his media over hyping.

[The Camel]

Swimmers are great athletes obv, so are cyclists. But the multi discipline nature of the support somehwat devalues their massive hauls of medals if you try comparisons.

eg Phelps v Bolt over the last 2 olympics. Bolt's achievement is greater no ?

What is Bolt's achievement? 2 World records at the same time, retaining his olympic titles?

It's impressive but I'm pretty sure there have been plenty of other sports people who have done the same

Would Jamaica win the 100m relay with a team of Powell, Bolt, Blake and Veronica Campbell-Brown?

[nirvana]

Swimmers are great athletes obv, so are cyclists. But the multi discipline nature of the support somehwat devalues their massive hauls of medals if you try comparisons.

eg Phelps v Bolt over the last 2 olympics. Bolt's achievement is greater no ?

What is Bolt's achievement?

lol

[Woodsey]

Swimmers are great athletes obv, so are cyclists. But the multi discipline nature of the support somehwat devalues their massive hauls of medals if you try comparisons.

eg Phelps v Bolt over the last 2 olympics. Bolt's achievement is greater no ?

What is Bolt's achievement?

lol

+1 

[kinboshi]

I think How's achievements are greatly under-appreciated and undervalued by many. Not only has he won more golds than any other Brit, he's utterly dominated in the events he's competed in. He's part of one of Britain's most successful sporting teams and would have possibly had more medals if the rules on the number of competitors from each country had been different.

I'd put him on a par with Redgrave. Both fantastic ambassadors for Britain and British sport, both very intelligent and articulate, and both carried the flag at the opening ceremony with one hand.