Sports personality of the year

[kinboshi]

When Terry wins the Nobel Peace Prize, his SPOTY will be guaranteed.  In fact he'll win so hard they'll cancel any future SPOTYs and Terry will get to keep the trophy forever.

[The Camel]

no idea whether it did or did not shape his personality but being "part" of the dunblane massacre almost certainly would shape most people

anyway unless anybody on here knows him personally we have no idea what kind of bloke he is

Exactly, how can you judge someone's personality via interviews?
He's clearly very uncomfortable with them and said as much last night.Which imo was probably the best he has came across in front of the Cameras pre Paraguaygate where he got stitched up by a gutter Journalist.

What was Paraguaygate?

[The Camel]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

[Woodsey]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

He will also have an entire country voting for him as well as a few of us.

[TightEnd]

Think that's a very good post

Mo Farah with the 5000/10000 double and the huge impact he had on the public consciousness with the mobot and Super Saturday is I think my vote to win it

Murray's victory last night was also not on terrestial TV. I wonder if that counts against him a little when it comes to casual votes.

In truth though I couldn't complain if any of six to eight the candidates won it, especially Murray or Wiggins alongside Farah

[Tonji]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

As a cycling fan, I cannot disagree with Keith's view re Murray v Wiggins.

But, Mo's Olympic double is the iconic sporting performance of the year.

[Josedinho]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

Just playing Devils Advocate because like Tighty I don't really care who wins it as there are so many deserving of it AND because I think the titles won are always more important than this pat on the back but....

You complained when people said that Wiggins' sporting achievement was Britain's best ever as it happened every year so had more opportunity than an Olympian for example. Is Muzza's therefore diluted because he has 4 chances a year to reach the pinnacle and Wiggins only has one?
Also first brit ever >>>>>>>>first brit for 75 years isn't it?

If we get Rusedski's, Owen's, Beckham's and Gigg's back we can give 5 out this year.

[The Camel]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

Just playing Devils Advocate because like Tighty I don't really care who wins it as there are so many deserving of it AND because I think the titles won are always more important than this pat on the back but....

You complained when people said that Wiggins' sporting achievement was Britain's best ever as it happened every year so had more opportunity than an Olympian for example. Is Muzza's therefore diluted because he has 4 chances a year to reach the pinnacle and Wiggins only has one?
Also first brit ever >>>>>>>>first brit for 75 years isn't it?

If we get Rusedski's, Owen's, Beckham's and Gigg's back we can give 5 out this year.

I can't argue Wiggins achievement isn't unique, because it obviously is.

But how many realistic winners of the Tour have we ever had?

I remember when Robert Millar was the only Brit competing!

We have had countless players trying to succeed Fred Perry as a Grand Slam winner. All have failed.

I love the Tour, but outside France and Spain it simply isn't such a big event as a Grand Slam tennis tournament. And it certainly isn't as competitive.

[The Camel]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

As a cycling fan, I cannot disagree with Keith's view re Murray v Wiggins.

But, Mo's Olympic double is the iconic sporting performance of the year.

To me, Murray's speech after losing the Wimbledon final was the single most iconic moment.

[smashedagain]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

As a cycling fan, I cannot disagree with Keith's view re Murray v Wiggins.

But, Mo's Olympic double is the iconic sporting performance of the year.

To me, Murray's speech after losing the Wimbledon final was the single most iconic moment.

If he becomes world number one this would also happen leading upto spoty keeping him in the public eye. I love Wiggins everything about him, not just his achievements but also his image and personality. Just can't see him getting the votes that Murray will. There are too many cyclists up for nomination which will also rob him of crucial votes.

[Tal]

Who votes for TV competitions? I don't even vote for Strictly and I love that programme like I love Gazza's free kick in '91.

Basically, people who vote are people who have just about heard of tennis. They def won't have watched TdF. So, although they will recognise Wiggo's achievement and will vote for him into the top 3, Murray's performances will stand out more to your average X Factor/LateNightCasinoTV/Strictly voter.

As for the standard of the oppo, it's not Wiggo's fault that (most of) the drugs cheats have been found out. You can only beat what's there. Schleck missing was a big deal, mind.

You can pick holes in any argument: Murray has only beaten one of the top players in each victory; he has never beaten Fed and Nadal in the same major.

As I say, Murray makes #1 and he locks this comp up IMO. Wiggins takes a deserved silver and a KBE.

[AndrewT]

Voting figures for SPOTY are really low - much less than an average week on XFactor.

[kinboshi]

Voting figures for SPOTY are really low - much less than an average week on XFactor.

Except when Justin Fashanu received loads of votes.

[discomonkey]

Who votes for TV competitions? I don't even vote for Strictly and I love that programme like I love Gazza's free kick in '91.

Basically, people who vote are people who have just about heard of tennis. They def won't have watched TdF. So, although they will recognise Wiggo's achievement and will vote for him into the top 3, Murray's performances will stand out more to your average X Factor/LateNightCasinoTV/Strictly voter.

As for the standard of the oppo, it's not Wiggo's fault that (most of) the drugs cheats have been found out. You can only beat what's there. Schleck missing was a big deal, mind.

You can pick holes in any argument: Murray has only beaten one of the top players in each victory; he has never beaten Fed and Nadal in the same major.

As I say, Murray makes #1 and he locks this comp up IMO. Wiggins takes a deserved silver and a KBE.

not true, he beat Djokovic and Federer to win Olympics.... and to add to his other achievements we should include the mixed doubles silver which at times was close to 2 vs 1 with the way Robson was serving.

Murray is slim fave for me at, with Wiggins a little behind, the problem for Wiggins is that:

1. the average voter wont watch cycling and many more will watch tennis.
2. almost everything he does is on secondary TV (Eursport)
3. all his achievements were in the early part of the year and Murray won his GS in September which will stick in the memory to a larger degree.
4. Way more has been made of Murrays success because of the time passed since a British winner, whereas not so much made of British never winning the Tour De France

[ACE2M]

To my way of thinking, Andy Murray's sporting achievements \make him the outstanding candidate now. Surpassing Wiggins.

He is the first British man to win a grand slam for 75 years, this must match Wiggins for the uniqueness of his TdF title.

They both won Olympic Gold.

But Murray has beaten two of the all time greats. Federer in the Olympics final. Djoko is the US Open final.

I am no great cycling expert, but the field in this years Tour looked extremely thin, with Evans massively under performing and Contador absent. Would Valverde, Froome or Nibali be fit to polish Fed or Novak's tennis shoes?

Chuck in the tears after the Wimbledon final and to me Murray should win.

Just playing Devils Advocate because like Tighty I don't really care who wins it as there are so many deserving of it AND because I think the titles won are always more important than this pat on the back but....

You complained when people said that Wiggins' sporting achievement was Britain's best ever as it happened every year so had more opportunity than an Olympian for example. Is Muzza's therefore diluted because he has 4 chances a year to reach the pinnacle and Wiggins only has one?
Also first brit ever >>>>>>>>first brit for 75 years isn't it?

If we get Rusedski's, Owen's, Beckham's and Gigg's back we can give 5 out this year.

I can't argue Wiggins achievement isn't unique, because it obviously is.

But how many realistic winners of the Tour have we ever had?

I remember when Robert Millar was the only Brit competing!

We have had countless players trying to succeed Fred Perry as a Grand Slam winner. All have failed.

I love the Tour, but outside France and Spain it simply isn't such a big event as a Grand Slam tennis tournament. And it certainly isn't as competitive.

still determined to opposed bradley with anyone i see.

No way murray wins it, farah is still the only realistic opposition.