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« on: August 20, 2012, 04:10:33 AM »

PokerStars Hand #84809930408: Tournament #598693380, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2012/08/16 12:19:15 CT [2012/08/16 13:19:15 ET]
Table '598693380 21' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Mavericci (2940 in chips)
Seat 2: JanT_Ni (2990 in chips)
Seat 3: specht1988 (3030 in chips)
Seat 4: Michlveit (2655 in chips)
Seat 5: theguzzler (2920 in chips)
Seat 6: IamMoved (3010 in chips)
Seat 7: 20alex430 (3375 in chips)
Seat 8: mcnallyville (3090 in chips)
Seat 9: Bumbulbee_G (3000 in chips)
IamMoved: posts small blind 10
20alex430: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 20alex430 [ ]
mcnallyville: folds
Bumbulbee_G: folds
Mavericci: raises 40 to 60
JanT_Ni: folds
specht1988: folds
Michlveit: folds
theguzzler: folds
IamMoved: folds
20alex430: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [ ]
20alex430: checks
Mavericci: bets 80
20alex430: raises 120 to 200
Mavericci: calls 120
*** TURN *** [ ] []
20alex430: bets 340
Mavericci: calls 340
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
20alex430: bets 610
Mavericci: raises 1730 to 2340 and is all-in
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 04:29:57 AM »

Feels like a fold, any info on villian would be helpful Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 05:14:22 AM »

I would have c|r more on the flop. The way he has played it I think a flush and k j are unlikely. I would put him on a set or an overpair. At the level I play $15 comps I would likely call without any specific reads? We lose to QQ and TT but beat 55 KK AA which has more combos out there.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 05:40:28 AM »

See what you're saying but really don't think he ever shoves AA or KK on the river unless to turn it into a bluff, he has 55 sometimes, but may 3b the flop with that. Other than that, beat QT which I think he just flats me on the river with.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 05:58:31 AM »

He has alot of flush combos imo. This hand is alot more interesting if the flop is  and he takes this line i think as there is a ton of combos he now cant have
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2012, 11:08:49 AM »

I think that you have to try and ignore the fact that you have a flopped set, because, on this board, you are pretty much only beating a bluff.
I think that villian will show up with  or similar often enough to make this a FOLD.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 01:25:46 PM »

Sigh food unless you have specific villain info to know he does his with 55, qt or could turn JQ into a bluff. As played and against random you gotta click the fold button
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 03:33:15 PM »

Villain has a super easy bluff shove if I'm folding 99 here though, means I'm folding more or less my entire range.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 03:40:18 PM »

True, i dont think your getting exploited all that often in a 50fo tho vs a random. Just think he has it
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 05:02:21 PM »

Vs random I'd c/r turn jam river as played fold now. They won't be looking to exploit you if they are bad and if they are good they are playing. 10+ tble so won't do anything pre antes
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 05:21:17 PM »

Yeh I was pretty sure I was beat...so I called and was pleasantly surprised he had Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 05:22:22 PM »

don't like c/raising the turn at all pads, he's checking back SO OFTEN imo.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2012, 05:29:27 PM »

don't like c/raising the turn at all pads, he's checking back SO OFTEN imo.

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2012, 06:20:46 PM »

o bet small really turn to try to get him to take off/make sure we get lot vs his value hands.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 06:32:54 PM »

Very easy/standard fold imo
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