The transfer deadline thread

[kinboshi]

At the time he was the best player we had but he doesn't have the end product for me.  I much preferred Downing who wasn't as quick or flashy but whose delivery into the box was, at its best, unplayable.

Ishmael Miller?  Mowbray has obviously had him before and signed him on that basis.  He has been injured since then and it seems he might not have recovered from what I have heard in which case it isn't great.  We desperately need a proper goalscorer though.

Hope Liverpool sign that Downing...

[mondatoo]

I'd say Johnson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Downing.

Pretty devd he's gone to the Mackems, would walk in our team, why didn't we sign him

[The Camel]

At the time he was the best player we had but he doesn't have the end product for me.  I much preferred Downing who wasn't as quick or flashy but whose delivery into the box was, at its best, unplayable.

Ishmael Miller?  Mowbray has obviously had him before and signed him on that basis.  He has been injured since then and it seems he might not have recovered from what I have heard in which case it isn't great.  We desperately need a proper goalscorer though.

Miller was really good when on loan with QPR.

Surprised we didn't sign him at the time.

No idea of his fitness though.

[buzzharvey22]

over the moon with johnson to be honest, fletcher im a bit sketchy just because of the price tag. we've bought him for the same price as Ba, Cisse and Ben Arfa combined. We still need another striker desperatly

[mondatoo]

Bareing in mind that it's fully acknowledged that when a team is relegated all of there players are instantly worth less than if they'd stayed up does that mean Fletcher's true value is £18-20 million, just lol.

[TightEnd]

Players at British clubs (if under a contract of some length) are overvalued because of the impending new TV deal, and higher parachute payments, so you have to pay over the odds to prise them away as the clubs aren't forced sellers

Spanish club players, in particular and minus the big two, are relative bargains because of financial troubles

lots and lots of Premier League scouts at the Malaga CL game midweek, for example

Someone like Isco the winger will be in the Premiership soon enough



Meanwhile Victor Moses signs for Chelsea....

[Tal]

Players at British clubs (if under a contract of some length) are overvalued because of the impending new TV deal, and higher parachute payments, so you have to pay over the odds to prise them away as the clubs aren't forced sellers

Spanish club players, in particular and minus the big two, are relative bargains because of financial troubles

lots and lots of Premier League scouts at the Malaga CL game midweek, for example

Someone like Isco the winger will be in the Premiership soon enough



Meanwhile Victor Moses signs for Chelsea....

Can't get my breath about Moses. He can't be expecting a game, apart from in the Capital One Cup.

[Junior Senior]

At the time he was the best player we had but he doesn't have the end product for me.  I much preferred Downing who wasn't as quick or flashy but whose delivery into the box was, at its best, unplayable.

Ishmael Miller?  Mowbray has obviously had him before and signed him on that basis.  He has been injured since then and it seems he might not have recovered from what I have heard in which case it isn't great.  We desperately need a proper goalscorer though.

Miller was really good when on loan with QPR.

Surprised we didn't sign him at the time.

No idea of his fitness though.

Was hoping it was gonna be kenny miller. He is abs terrible at poker but loves the game so was hoping for added value in DTD

[Josedinho]

Adam Johnson is pretty overrated. Got a fair amount of talent but not got the brain to use it. Not often he picks the best option available to him.

Think Fletcher is decent, maybe slightly overpriced but you're paying for goals. Probably a lazy signing as their must be somebody out there that can get the goals for less but it's not horrible.

Jarvis is overpriced. Amazed at the difference in fees between him and Kightly. I'd rather try and get an untested Championship winger than pay the big fee for him. Plenty have made the step up and not struggled. Pilkington, Dyer, Sinclair, Jarvis, Kightly. Get them before they cost a shed load imo.

[horseplayer]

adam johnson is the ultimate highlights player

looks good in snippets, despite mancini giving him plenty of chances to convert to his style (i.e. actually chase back once in a while) he didn't really improve in that area either.

If you are going to be a player like him who i would deem a luxury player in the modern game you need to be bloody good. Big difference is hazard and messi to name but two work very hard as well something johnson doesn't possess.

[horseplayer]

even if you think flecther isnt a good striker its hard to argue given the chances and games played he isnt a proven premiership scorer

and i will raise you mr connor wickham at 10.5 million

[mondatoo]

even if you think flecther isnt a good striker its hard to argue given the chances and games played he isnt a proven premiership scorer

and i will raise you mr connor wickham at 10.5 million

His record reads:

                      Apps      Goals

HIbs 04-09        156       43     ermm, thats terrible

Burnley 09-10     35        8       see above

Wolves 10-12      61       22      sure justifys the price tag ?

Not being biased because he's signed for the wronguns, just think it's ridic what clubs pay for Eng players due to the new laws.

How is he a proven Premiership class striker ?

[horseplayer]

even if you think flecther isnt a good striker its hard to argue given the chances and games played he isnt a proven premiership scorer

and i will raise you mr connor wickham at 10.5 million

His record reads:

                      Apps      Goals

HIbs 04-09        156       43     ermm, thats terrible

Burnley 09-10     35        8       see above

Wolves 10-12      61       22      sure justifys the price tag ?

Not being biased because he's signed for the wronguns, just think it's ridic what clubs pay for Eng players due to the new laws.

How is he a proven Premiership class striker ?

how is that terrible?

when you consider a lot of those games are from the bench it is pretty good actually

infact name me a better strike rate for a player from a non old firm club and a player from sides that have got relegated from the epl

you cant

[edgascoigne]

even if you think flecther isnt a good striker its hard to argue given the chances and games played he isnt a proven premiership scorer

and i will raise you mr connor wickham at 10.5 million

His record reads:

                      Apps      Goals

HIbs 04-09        156       43     ermm, thats terrible

Burnley 09-10     35        8       see above

Wolves 10-12      61       22      sure justifys the price tag ?

Not being biased because he's signed for the wronguns, just think it's ridic what clubs pay for Eng players due to the new laws.

How is he a proven Premiership class striker ?

how is that terrible?

when you consider a lot of those games are from the bench it is pretty good actually

infact name me a better strike rate for a player from a non old firm club and a player from sides that have got relegated from the epl

you cant

Solely being facetious but Darren Bent must push him close in terms of strike rate in a relegated team?

[MANTIS01]

I think Fletcher is a skillful player and have always liked him but his goals record is around 1 in 4, even in Scottish football it's around 1 in 4. So £14m is steep for a player who wont be getting you 20 goals a season. Compare that to say Papiss Cisse who Newcastle signed for £8m. His goal record is around 1 in 2 which is more like it for a top striker and last season he blasted 13 goals from 14 games. Demba Ba was free and he also has a 1 in 2 record. So yeah by comparison paying twice as much for a striker that scores half as many is expensive. Then again Martin O'Neill god bless him has this weird habit of over spending on players wherever he goes.