Two pair turn spot

[zerofive]

This could probably be a really easy one, but it disgusted me at the time mostly because I had no plan for this happening.

Gala 50/1, pretty lively but dead passive and somehow me and the other nit managed to get the standard open all the way down to a low low £3.

Villain in this hand is Jimmy, for those of you who don't know him he has a lot of standard old man tendencies (with no disrespect intended.) He is quite tight, loves to limp-raise/checkraise with strong hands, and hang on with small hands but as with a lot of recreational players he is a little bit clueless when it comes to sizing/narrowing ranges etc.

We're both about £250 to start the hand.

Villain opens MP to £3.50 behind two limpers (this is unusual sizing, this open is normally in the region of £10)
C/o calls, I call OTB with and we go 5 ways

Flop (£18)

Villain bets £11, I call, bb check-calls.

Turn (£51)

Checked to me I bet £28
bb folds
Villain checkraises to £105 with close to £150 back

We??

Feels like I hate every option. I don't know if my hand is supposed to be an A8 or AT to him right now and he's going nuts with AQ. Weighting towards AK/AQ Would expect him to make this move with draws sometimes, but the only real ones are KQ, KT, QT hearts for him to take off like this. Could also be sets but it's not aces given how I'd expect him to play that hand way faster, and we block the other two. Mostly worried about two pair hands but it's hard to imagine 2prs doesn't just bet again. This is never ever complete air.

As I'm typing this up it feels like it's a shove, but would like opinions.

[jezza777]

we fold pre so not to get in these situations in the first place IMO.

[rbc_mike]

Raise flop, no1's folding an ace at gala.

As played, fyl on the turn. Fold and don't tell anyone you had 2 pair I suppose.  It's such a bizarre line though, so I'll think more and write a proper answer.

[tight4better]

Looking back, Jimmy LOVES to overbet with hands like AJ/A9 here.

I said at the time it was a gross spot but thinking more and more I think you have to have the best hand here 90 something percent of the time.

Honestly, I think you faded Ax HH You fucking boss.

[zerofive]

we fold pre so not to get in these situations in the first place IMO.

lol. There's always a token "fold pre" character Fold AA pre so we don't get into difficult situations like K Q T.

[DMorgan]

In the absence of a read that he's gunna way overplay AQ/AT here its a fold imo.

Tough to imagine old guy with tight-ish tendencies taking off here with draws very often. These guys love a peel.

[jezza777]

we fold pre so not to get in these situations in the first place IMO.

lol. There's always a token "fold pre" character Fold AA pre so we don't get into difficult situations like K Q T.

I am defo that guy, lol! I genuinley think limping here is just pointless. We don't close the action and I just think you are burning money.

[DMorgan]

We're not limping we're overcalling the preflop raiser who raised to 3.5x over two limpers. With a very small risk of the open limper reraising and playing 250bbs effective in position vs the raiser who is probably going to struggle to find folds with even strong one pair hands, folding pre would be burning money.

[tight4better]

we fold pre so not to get in these situations in the first place IMO.

lol. There's always a token "fold pre" character Fold AA pre so we don't get into difficult situations like K Q T.

Or just snap fold the flop and see 

[edgascoigne]

Fold now

[Mitch]

we fold pre so not to get in these situations in the first place IMO.

Hope this is a level. If you are folding this hand on the button to this action in a live game you need to quit poker. 

RE: the hand, FYL.

He deffo raises more pre with JJ and AA imo, so your only really losing to 99, AJ. Even A9/7 he happily limps behind, maybeeeeee raises A9 if its suited, but unlikely.

So to summarise, he has very few hands that beat you, but hes raised and hes a nit, so just fold imo.

The onlyyyyyyyy hand he might be playing like this we beat is but you would know more than me how he plays this type of hand.

[jezza777]

we fold pre so not to get in these situations in the first place IMO.

Hope this is a level. If you are folding this hand on the button to this action in a live game you need to quit poker. 

RE: the hand, FYL.

He deffo raises more pre with JJ and AA imo, so your only really losing to 99, AJ. Even A9/7 he happily limps behind, maybeeeeee raises A9 if its suited, but unlikely.

So to summarise, he has very few hands that beat you, but hes raised and hes a nit, so just fold imo.

The onlyyyyyyyy hand he might be playing like this we beat is but you would know more than me how he plays this type of hand.

I don't play much live poker and am generally a tournament player anyway so I am probably too nitty with my chips. I just think its a hand that can be second best a lot and we don't close the action. If you think the button and stacks make up for this then fair enough.

[pleno1]

Squeeze pre for sure, it surely can't be close right?

[rfgqqabc]

Squeeze pre for sure, it surely can't be close right?

Agree for sure, happy to squeeze atc when someone deviates from their standard opening size like this.

Ott as played, I'm feeling really gross. Dont think i fold in-game but behind the screen here i think its fine to just fold. He has A9/AJ a ton imo

[pleno1]

well not atc, but a sutied 2 gapper