Pre-Flop decision - Fold / Sigh Call

[Derbylad]

PokerStars Hand #85447929345: Tournament #614010284, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2012/08/30 16:24:50 WET [2012/08/30 11:24:50 ET]
Table '614010284 256' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: MFBS55 (18364 in chips)
Seat 2: pokerinfadel (10480 in chips)
Seat 3: patyutka (15252 in chips)
Seat 4: PIRAT313 (8414 in chips)
Seat 5: lillsmen80 (15673 in chips)
Seat 6: GHolden7 (23770 in chips)
Seat 7: hobby56 (11212 in chips)
Seat 8: israeliforce (3460 in chips)
Seat 9: Shadowvoid (5592 in chips)
MFBS55: posts the ante 50
pokerinfadel: posts the ante 50
patyutka: posts the ante 50
PIRAT313: posts the ante 50
lillsmen80: posts the ante 50
GHolden7: posts the ante 50
hobby56: posts the ante 50
israeliforce: posts the ante 50
Shadowvoid: posts the ante 50
MFBS55: posts small blind 200
pokerinfadel: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GHolden7 [ ]
patyutka: folds
PIRAT313: folds
lillsmen80: folds
GHolden7: raises 600 to 1000
hobby56: folds
israeliforce: folds
Shadowvoid: raises 4542 to 5542 and is all-in
MFBS55: folds
pokerinfadel: raises 4888 to 10430 and is all-in
GHolden7:


pokerinfadel is 28/19/18 over 68 hands....

[rfgqqabc]

Call without a sigh.

[Derbylad]

*Sigh at the end

[cambridgealex]

Call 6/10 happiness

[the rage]

I'm a little suprised that, so far, people think that it's an easy call.
It may be just me and my nitty tendancies, but i really dont mind a fold here.
We are way ahead of the first shovers range, but, i'm not sure that we can say the same for the open 4 bet shover.
We have to beat both villian's hands to make a profit here and i dont think that JJ is that likely to do so. So, it's a FOLD for me.

[Derbylad]

My thoughts exactly, we're calling just shy of half our stack off, to potentially be against Overcards / Overpairs and we're not pot committed, not that favorable against most of the shovers ranges and have better spots deeper in and can play more effectively with a bigger stack. Nobody else folding here?

[JustinSayne]

My thoughts exactly, we're calling just shy of half our stack off, to potentially be against Overcards / Overpairs and we're not pot committed, not that favorable against most of the shovers ranges and have better spots deeper in and can play more effectively with a bigger stack. Nobody else folding here?

You have 25bb and the 4th nuts preflop. Cant get much better then this imo

[SuuPRlim]

you can easily be decently ahead of both shoves imo, remember someone said were clearly "way ahead" of the first jammers range, well the second guy to jam isn't going to find AJs or 99 and feel differently to us.

Folding just seems bad readless