NFL 2012/13 General Discussion and Betting Thread

[AndrewT]

Noob question - do coaches always ice kickers when they have the chance (late, timeouts to burn)?  Because if they always do it, then surely it loses all effectiveness?

[TightEnd]

Not always, though it has been a growing trend

afaik absolutely no evidence it works...they hit 77% of normal field goals and 81% of iced field goals if the stat on commentary last night is correct

[action man]

sorry to get a brag off but....


   0000381   Accumulator (4) (To win)   15    £150.00   New York Jets at Miami Dolphins   Money Line   New York Jets   10/13   £3,511.80
                    Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns   Money Line   Buffalo Bills   5/7   
                    Philadelphia Eagles at Arizona Cardinals   Money Line   Arizona Cardinals   31/20   
                    New England Patriots at Baltimore Ravens   Money Line   Baltimore Ravens   4/5   
                    Houston Texans at Denver Broncos   Money Line   Houston Texans   5/6   
                    Kansas City Chiefs at New Orleans Saints   Money Line   Kansas City Chiefs   3/1   
    0000382   Accumulator (5) (To win)   6    £90.00   New York Jets at Miami Dolphins   Money Line   New York Jets   10/13   £4,428.22
                    Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns   Money Line   Buffalo Bills   5/7   
                    Philadelphia Eagles at Arizona Cardinals   Money Line   Arizona Cardinals   31/20   
                    New England Patriots at Baltimore Ravens   Money Line   Baltimore Ravens   4/5   
                    Houston Texans at Denver Broncos   Money Line   Houston Texans   5/6   
                    Kansas City Chiefs at New Orleans Saints   Money Line   Kansas City Chiefs   3/1   
    0000383   Accumulator (6) (To win)   1    £20.00   New York Jets at Miami Dolphins   Money Line   New York Jets   10/13   £2,041.79
                    Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns   Money Line   Buffalo Bills   5/7   
                    Philadelphia Eagles at Arizona Cardinals   Money Line   Arizona Cardinals   31/20   
                    New England Patriots at Baltimore Ravens   Money Line   Baltimore Ravens   4/5   
                    Houston Texans at Denver Broncos   Money Line   Houston Texans   5/6   
                    Kansas City Chiefs at New Orleans Saints   Money Line   Kansas City Chiefs   3/1   

[smashedagain]

Sick brag

[Marky147]

Nice one Trigg!!

There is a load of nonsense there I can't make out, but I'm guessing you won 10 lumps?

[action man]

10 from there but laid 2k off going into the last game. Pussy balls

[claypole]

sorry to get a brag off but....


   0000381   Accumulator (4) (To win)   15    £150.00   New York Jets at Miami Dolphins   Money Line   New York Jets   10/13   £3,511.80
                    Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns   Money Line   Buffalo Bills   5/7   
                    Philadelphia Eagles at Arizona Cardinals   Money Line   Arizona Cardinals   31/20   
                    New England Patriots at Baltimore Ravens   Money Line   Baltimore Ravens   4/5   
                    Houston Texans at Denver Broncos   Money Line   Houston Texans   5/6   
                    Kansas City Chiefs at New Orleans Saints   Money Line   Kansas City Chiefs   3/1   
    0000382   Accumulator (5) (To win)   6    £90.00   New York Jets at Miami Dolphins   Money Line   New York Jets   10/13   £4,428.22
                    Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns   Money Line   Buffalo Bills   5/7   
                    Philadelphia Eagles at Arizona Cardinals   Money Line   Arizona Cardinals   31/20   
                    New England Patriots at Baltimore Ravens   Money Line   Baltimore Ravens   4/5   
                    Houston Texans at Denver Broncos   Money Line   Houston Texans   5/6   
                    Kansas City Chiefs at New Orleans Saints   Money Line   Kansas City Chiefs   3/1   
    0000383   Accumulator (6) (To win)   1    £20.00   New York Jets at Miami Dolphins   Money Line   New York Jets   10/13   £2,041.79
                    Buffalo Bills at Cleveland Browns   Money Line   Buffalo Bills   5/7   
                    Philadelphia Eagles at Arizona Cardinals   Money Line   Arizona Cardinals   31/20   
                    New England Patriots at Baltimore Ravens   Money Line   Baltimore Ravens   4/5   
                    Houston Texans at Denver Broncos   Money Line   Houston Texans   5/6   
                    Kansas City Chiefs at New Orleans Saints   Money Line   Kansas City Chiefs   3/1   

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Claypole texts Trigg at 5.30pm asking for NFL picks - as I want a sweat and know f*** all about the sport
Trigg has phone off as "concentrating on WCOOP" - his second less proftable job
I wake up to "oi oi oi oi" Trigg all over facebook
I get aplogetic text from Trigg saying phone off all day

FMEL

Delighted for you mate - although do have a pit of stomach feeling all day today!

[Tal]

Pleased for you - go bills!

[action man]

my crest of a wave bets tonight are seahawks and unders 31/20 and evens, waiting on jones for FTD coups

[kukushkin88]

I think the unders are of interest in Seattle. I think GB are going to make a season long commitment to run the ball as they blame their terrible defensive seasons on not controlling the clock/giving the defence adequate rest. It seems from what McCarthy has being saying preseason he is determined to get to the playoffs with a more balanced offence, even if it means having to work harder in regular season games. I don´t think the line has fully adjusted and we should be trying to take advantage. Circa 20 carries again this week for Benson is roughly what I expect, Seattle will without doubt being running it lots. Only 33 points in the GB game last week with 52 the week before although that was partly due to a punt return that clearly should have come back for a hold. Seattle´s first 2 games 36 points and 34. These points include a few special teams/defensive TD´s as well. Combined average over what is obviously a tiny sample 38.75 ppg.
Evens under 45.5 at Ladbrokes looks a very reasonable bet to me.

I´m surprised that everyone likes Seattle, it´s one of my rules not to back against Seattle at home but GB are just different class imo and perfectly capable of taking the crowd out of it on offence and giving the young QB a seriously torrid time defensively. GB -3 at a shade of odds on and GB -10.5 at 5/2 both with Pinny complete my bets.

[The Camel]

I think the unders are of interest in Seattle. I think GB are going to make a season long commitment to run the ball as they blame their terrible defensive seasons on not controlling the clock/giving the defence adequate rest. It seems from what McCarthy has being saying preseason he is determined to get to the playoffs with a more balanced offence, even if it means having to work harder in regular season games. I don´t think the line has fully adjusted and we should be trying to take advantage. Circa 20 carries again this week for Benson is roughly what I expect, Seattle will without doubt being running it lots. Only 33 points in the GB game last week with 52 the week before although that was partly due to a punt return that clearly should have come back for a hold. Seattle´s first 2 games 36 points and 34. These points include a few special teams/defensive TD´s as well. Combined average over what is obviously a tiny sample 38.75 ppg.
Evens under 45.5 at Ladbrokes looks a very reasonable bet to me.

I´m surprised that everyone likes Seattle, it´s one of my rules not to back against Seattle at home but GB are just different class imo and perfectly capable of taking the crowd out of it on offence and giving the young QB a seriously torrid time defensively. GB -3 at a shade of odds on and GB -10.5 at 5/2 both with Pinny complete my bets.

I can't remember the exact figure, but backing home dogs at 3 or 3.5 on SNF or MNF blind is a long term winning strategy.

It's at last worth thinking twice before laying the chalk on the road in nationally televised games.

[Matt.NFFC.]

How bad/good are the Raiders this year?

It's a team I've kinda followed for many years, and I plan to go over there within the next 4 years.  From someone with limited knowledge of the game, I can't see them doing that well this year although the division is weak no?

[TightEnd]

How bad/good are the Raiders this year?

It's a team I've kinda followed for many years, and I plan to go over there within the next 4 years.  From someone with limited knowledge of the game, I can't see them doing that well this year although the division is weak no?

Average-ish which is actually better than the appalling they've been for years

and yes the division is not the strongest

Raiders management pretty eccentric, gave up high draft picks to get Carson Palmer, and their window is pretty short. Unless they win now there is another rebuilding ahead

[Tal]

How bad/good are the Raiders this year?

It's a team I've kinda followed for many years, and I plan to go over there within the next 4 years.  From someone with limited knowledge of the game, I can't see them doing that well this year although the division is weak no?

Average-ish which is actually better than the appalling they've been for years

and yes the division is not the strongest

Raiders management pretty eccentric, gave up high draft picks to get Carson Palmer, and their window is pretty short. Unless they win now there is another rebuilding ahead

Haven't had a QB for years.

One of the iconic sets of fans tho, like the Bengals and the Steelers: a sea of colour and madness.

[KarmaDope]

I think this just sums up the ineptness of the replacement refs this year - and yes, that is a ref's hat!