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« on: September 03, 2012, 05:30:53 PM »

Weird.

150/300.

utg+1 opens to 650 off 50k
btn flats off 30k
hero flats sb off 60k


flop 874hhh  (1800)

hero leads 890
utg+1 calls
btn calls

turn (4500)

hero bets 3100
utg folds
btn calls

river  (10700)

hero goes to c/f
villain bets 8.2k

some assumptions on his range please.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2012, 05:51:03 PM »

very very weird.

22 to 88 (obv not 44)? What is his image? I think the flopped straight is a possibility, and he is turning it into a bluff. Maybe  Ahrtx? Even flopped flush?

As you may gather I have no idea. How can he like the last 4 so much to bet 8.2k? Really looks like a bluff now. Assuming he sees you as good tight, he is "value betting" big because you know that he knows etc.

Therefore in summary, looks like a bluff, isn't a bluff, so 88 for me.

What did you have?


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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2012, 05:54:27 PM »

seems like 99-QQ like all the time
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2012, 06:03:27 PM »

seems like 99-QQ like all the time

77-QQ

Maybe a 55 66 with h
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2012, 07:08:00 PM »

we have kjhh
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2012, 07:48:25 PM »

looks strong as hell, turn barrel might even be too thin?

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2012, 08:35:40 PM »

whats the least likely hand you expect to see here?
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2012, 08:56:02 PM »

23dd
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2012, 09:00:44 PM »

whats the least likely hand you expect to see here?

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His range ott is pretty nutted right? At least like flushes/boats, maybe some weird floaty shit like 89? Some people just have no clue how to react to donks. Woulda been $2-- buyin right? Could easily be some surprising shit. If your asking least likely hand leads me to think you called. He have  ?
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 01:15:53 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 01:20:19 AM »

To me it just looks like he can't he a value range with such a large sandwich on the piano. If he was goin for thin value with 10a or somali then I'd expect a smaller size to both potentially induce or to get a thin call.

I decided to be a hero Otr and hoped to see ah x but it was potentially optimistic.
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2012, 01:23:30 AM »

exactly why its become a regular thing in mtt's to bomb the river sorta thin but knowing you always have the best hand, I do it alot with 1 pair alot otr when I feel i always have the best hand, it confuses people and you can get looked up pretty light from pure confusion/curiosity whereas if you bet half-2/3 pot they might just fold and presume u have it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2012, 01:29:13 AM »

Yeh definitely noted. First aha moment for a while!
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2012, 02:15:22 AM »

To me it just looks like he can't he a value range with such a large sandwich on the piano.

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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2012, 09:57:28 AM »

helps if you tell us whether you recognise villan as a reg (good or bad) or not.

he can have 77 / 88 also alot of 45ss.

however in all reality though there are some spazzes about that could show up with 910ss / J10ss.

Vs a reg im calling (Agree with TL900's point about bombing the river thinish when we know we have the best hand - Its something i also do - However i dont think this is a spot in which villan will do this). Even if the villan is a random then im still calling i think (although slightly more reluctantly).

(Obviously from pleno's previous reply villan was nutted but i dont think its the case a hugh % of the time).
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