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« on: September 10, 2012, 12:35:06 PM »

On the pure bubble of the SPT Grand Final

28 left, 27 paid

£26,000 up top, £600 for 27th

8.6m in play

Sam McDonald is the chip leader with 1.2m

Satnam Sandhu has 800,000 and is a top five stack

blinds are 5-10,000

Average is 300,000


Hand for hand

A SPT regular, Jamie Hurst opens to 24,000 UTG+1

Sandhu flats with  in the cut off

Sam makes it 48,000 on the button

Sandhu: loose calling station, likes to see flops, difficult to disloge if he hits part of it

Sam: Aggressive chip leader, table captain

(history same orbit Sandhu calls down three bets on 8-10-Q-J-J with A-8 and is good versus McDonald)


Question 1. You are Sandhu with  .

You decide to?


We play down the streets in subsequent posts....
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 12:39:54 PM »

Hurst folds to the 3 bet, action on you
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 12:43:53 PM »

Hurst folds to the 3 bet, action on you

Would like Hursts stack size before- this makes a huge difference on whether we should 3bet/get in or not. As played, we can call for 24k more into 111k atm if there are no antes. We would have approx 750k behind, so its ok, not a massive fan but don't like 4bet and folding seems a bit gay getting 4/1 to see first 3, with 750k back and 135k in the pot if we call. Pretty much set mining altho judging by Sams rep we "should" be calling down a chunk.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 12:44:43 PM »

Calling is fine here.  Think 3 bet should have been standard with 88 and that stack on the bubble.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 12:47:43 PM »

Hurst folds to the 3 bet, action on you

Would like Hursts stack size before- this makes a huge difference on whether we should 3bet/get in or not. As played, we can call for 24k more into 111k atm if there are no antes. We would have approx 750k behind, so its ok, not a massive fan but don't like 4bet and folding seems a bit gay getting 4/1 to see first 3, with 750k back and 135k in the pot if we call. Pretty much set mining altho judging by Sams rep we "should" be calling down a chunk.

Hurst has under average, I'd say 250,000...fwiw as he's just folded
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 12:59:17 PM »

Easy call Smiley

To be honest I would play pretty fit fold postflop given stack sizes
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 01:02:43 PM »

So we call

There is 144,000 in the middle

We have 750,000ish

He has 1,150,000ish


Play has stopped on the other tables,and a crowd is gathering

We see a flop of

 three clubs


We are first to act

What is your preferred option and why?

If you check, are you check-call, check-raise or check-fold? 
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 01:12:24 PM »

Always checking, never check-raising. I'd check fold in this specific spot even though Sam can have anything here. We with a massive stack, on the bubble, oop to a total nutjob Tongue

He's just going to make you're life hell because it's terrible for you to bust and he knows that so will just apply maximum pressure. I might call one and re-evaluate but I just can't see him ever shutting down on the turn so it's just burning very valuable chips to call one and fold the turn, yet we don't wanna call/call/call allin with 88 here do we? So by process of elimination - check/fold.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 01:47:29 PM »

(history same orbit Sandhu calls down three bets on 8-10-Q-J-J with A-8 and is good versus McDonald)

Sam McDonald story checks out.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2012, 02:01:04 PM »

Always checking, never check-raising. I'd check fold in this specific spot even though Sam can have anything here. We with a massive stack, on the bubble, oop to a total nutjob Tongue

He's just going to make you're life hell because it's terrible for you to bust and he knows that so will just apply maximum pressure. I might call one and re-evaluate but I just can't see him ever shutting down on the turn so it's just burning very valuable chips to call one and fold the turn, yet we don't wanna call/call/call allin with 88 here do we? So by process of elimination - check/fold.

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2012, 02:02:08 PM »

Completely agree with Alex. Sam is gonna put us in some horrendous spots down the streets with an uncapped range
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2012, 02:05:48 PM »

check fold... we are guessing here op.... and its going to cost us a lot to find out v someone who is gonna show no weakness and is capable of 3 barrelling air and the nuts.. we set mined for 5% of our stack which is fine...we missed let it go..we are in good shape for the tourney and the last thing we need to do is get involved with the chip leader op in a minefield of a hand many better spots to come....
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2012, 02:27:13 PM »

3b to induce Sam to cold 4b with what will be something like a 30% frequency lol
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2012, 02:54:34 PM »

Anyone just fold pre when Sam 3 bets?
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2012, 02:55:26 PM »

He gave a good price pre, now the flop doesn't have any 8's on it fold.
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