DTD - Beginners Tournament

[Matt.NFFC.]

My shakes come from the fear of making mistakes and looking a bit daft, not because people put lots of chips across the line and say "all in" in a deep voice!

To say people who are nervous should find a new hobby is the type of attitude that puts people off from actually going and playing live poker.  You should embrace us, we are your bread and butter for making money!

[smashedagain]

If your shaking, nervous or intimidated I suggest another hobby!

Bollocks, I was like that the first few times I played live poker.

same

I still see some of the best players in the game shaking at times,

Talking about tikay?  Bit harsh...

Talking about tikay being some of the best players is stretching it a bit... Now that's harsh

[Cf]

If your shaking, nervous or intimidated I suggest another hobby!

Bollocks, I was like that the first few times I played live poker.

same

I still see some of the best players in the game shaking at times,

I don't shake/show it but the first couple of hands I play in a comp I do feel nervous. No idea why!

[Sulphur man]

If your shaking, nervous or intimidated I suggest another hobby!

Bollocks, I was like that the first few times I played live poker.

same

I still see some of the best players in the game shaking at times,

Jason you are my hero. I bet you make i few old pros shake (sounds wrong)

[blueace]

My shakes come from the fear of making mistakes and looking a bit daft, not because people put lots of chips across the line and say "all in" in a deep voice!

To say people who are nervous should find a new hobby is the type of attitude that puts people off from actually going and playing live poker.  You should embrace us, we are your bread and butter for making money!

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek tbf. However some advice for those starting out. Irrespective of who you are facing confidence and 'show' are what you need to suceed in this game, amongst all the other things. When you sit down for the first few times, tell yourself you are the best at the table and act the same. Repeat ad infinitum. There, my secrets out.

[Woodsey]

My shakes come from the fear of making mistakes and looking a bit daft, not because people put lots of chips across the line and say "all in" in a deep voice!

To say people who are nervous should find a new hobby is the type of attitude that puts people off from actually going and playing live poker.  You should embrace us, we are your bread and butter for making money!

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek tbf. However some advice for those starting out. Irrespective of who you are facing confidence and 'show' are what you need to suceed in this game, amongst all the other things. When you sit down for the first few times, tell yourself you are the best at the table and act the same. Repeat ad infinitum. There, my secrets out.

I think people should just worry about the basics first and enjoying themselves, that's pretty much it until they suss it out a bit more.

[blueace]

My shakes come from the fear of making mistakes and looking a bit daft, not because people put lots of chips across the line and say "all in" in a deep voice!

To say people who are nervous should find a new hobby is the type of attitude that puts people off from actually going and playing live poker.  You should embrace us, we are your bread and butter for making money!

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek tbf. However some advice for those starting out. Irrespective of who you are facing confidence and 'show' are what you need to suceed in this game, amongst all the other things. When you sit down for the first few times, tell yourself you are the best at the table and act the same. Repeat ad infinitum. There, my secrets out.

I think people should just worry about the basics first and enjoying themselves, that's pretty much it until they suss it out a bit more.

Dont disagree, they should try and do as much of the 'right' things that they can that ensures that they are the one taking home other peoples money.

[Matt.NFFC.]

Derailing slightly.......obviously there is the £10 + 4 beginners tournament, is it possible to get a beginners cash game going?

This could be 50p £1 like they already have but, impose conditions on this such as "non regulars" ie haven't played cash at the club for 3 weeks for example or whatever...

Probably hard to police the criteria, but maybe there could be some conditions that could be imposed ?

Would probably get new cash players at the tables?

I was gonna have a blast myself last Thursday, until I noticed it was full of regs, but I suppose if you don't try, you don't learn.  Maybe there's something that can be done to get new players in at the lowest level of cash?

Doing this on beginners night seems to make sense to me.

[JK]

Firstly, just want to point out that I shake like a leaf when I've not played live for a while. Its not fear, its not nerves, its adrenaline and excitement. I'm sure this is true for a lot of people.

Secondly, wanted to give a dealers point of view. Keep in mind here I've been dealing for about 3 years and probably 3/4 of that was in casinos where there are beginners every night. Its not difficult to spot these guys and give them a bit of a hand. I've ALWAYS given people one chance with string betting. If they do the old "I'm gonna sprinkle my chips in", I'll point out to them that this isn't allowed and that they either have to place them all in at once, or announce the amount beforehand at which point they can do whatever they want. This also points it out to others who may be unsure. Its a little more difficult with the single chip rule, but if you ask them immediately, point out the rule and let it slide, its a lot easier.

I think a lot of the dealers dont use their discretion as they think that someone will kick off and they'll get in trouble. It was always easier for me as I was a cardroom supervisor anyway, so what I said went and people trusted my opinion. This is harder in DTD as there is such a wide level of experience. I do believe that if the staff were told they can use their discretion, things would be a lot easier.

Lastly, I think the idea itself is brilliant, and I know DTD will sort a restriction that will suit all parties. At the end of the day, beginners play poker as a night out to have fun, not to win life changing money. I think that this will soon be reflected in the tournament.

[dr411]

The problem with dealers using their discretion is that more than one dealer will deal to a table in a night. The idea of a beginner tournament is so players can learn the game and the rules without spending allot of money. It's better to follow the rules strictly but they be explained in a positive way after a mistake. This is true for any beginner playing any buy-in tournament I feel. Just because a tournament is for beginners doesn't mean the rules shouldn't be followed, it just means punishment and the explanation of the rules should be slightly different.

In example:

Beginner throws in a large chip without saying anything. Dealer: "call" Player: "no i raised" Dealer: "unfortunately if you throw one large chip in without saying anything it goes as a call, you might have only wanted change. In future say what you want to happen and you can't go wrong" Player: "ok sorry" Dealer: "no problem it is a call" action continues

Experienced regular throws in a large chip without saying raise. Dealer: "call" Player: "sigh! forgot to say" the rest of the table limp behind to try and crack his big hand.....

[h]

Where and when did every one play there first live club casino game  ?


for me it was 5 years ago and i still consider myself a live game beginner

mistake i keep making  is betting out of turn  ( done this more than once )


so much easier on tinternet

[Woodsey]

Where and when did every one play there first live club casino game  ?


for me it was 5 years ago and i still consider myself a live game beginner

mistake i keep making  is betting out of turn  ( done this more than once )


so much easier on tinternet

Blackpool Tiberius casino, fuck knows how long ago, but at least 10 years I think.

[dr411]

4 years or so ago at DTD played the beginner tournament in the old days. 3 thousand chips 10 minute clock.

had been playing full time oniline for nearly a year before i played. going from 10 tabling 3/6lhe like a champ to being a nervous wreck over a tourney that cost me 3 big bets to enter.. now im so comfortable live i prefer it to online

[Waz1892]

Derailing slightly.......obviously there is the £10 + 4 beginners tournament, is it possible to get a beginners cash game going?

This could be 50p £1 like they already have but, impose conditions on this such as "non regulars" ie haven't played cash at the club for 3 weeks for example or whatever...

Probably hard to police the criteria, but maybe there could be some conditions that could be imposed ?

Would probably get new cash players at the tables?

I was gonna have a blast myself last Thursday, until I noticed it was full of regs, but I suppose if you don't try, you don't learn.  Maybe there's something that can be done to get new players in at the lowest level of cash?

Doing this on beginners night seems to make sense to me.

big +1 to this.  Cash games scary the bejeeves out of me at DTD, always seem again clikky, and full of reg who i fear would simply eat me up, I'd not help to think that the whole table (no doubt correctly) all look at each other and smile!

Rounders/Atlantic City springs to mind!

[kinboshi]

Cash games are definitely more intimidating for beginners than tournaments imo. 

A beginners cash game would be a very good idea (especially on the night of the beginners' tournament) - not sure DTD would want to offer a game lower than the .50/1 with £100 max buy-in though?