English Poker Open/GUKPT London

[pleno1]

God Keith surely you know all the pokerfarm stuff lol.

It's pretty comedy.

[zimmer]

Yeah it reads badly but its obvious its way easier to collude by 3betting big hands only rather than flatting

but he said in his interview with paul zimbler after that the reason why he only called with aces pre was because he couldnt bust his 'horse' as he had 50% in him and was only ever going to call him down hence the call against his horse on the flop !!!

how is that not collusion then dubai?

[pleno1]

From tricketts tone, even on Facebook it really looked like he really meant it

[zimmer]

God Keith surely you know all the pokerfarm stuff lol.

It's pretty comedy.

its on this thread camel, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/james-bord-brands-paul-zimbler-conman-hustler-1238058/

[skolsuper]

Yehut if they are on tv and sly folds like 10s or aq people will even start talking about collusion. I he has jj-kk then it's just orally obvious. He is raising from utg it's not like bvb or something, some people, especially players who massively believe in balance like I think trickett probably is never 3bet a utg anyway so flatting doesn't look that suspicious from me.

lol, trickett doesn't "massively believe in balance". This isn't meant as a dig as he is obviously brilliant, but he's not what you'd call a mathematically rigorous player.

That's not to say that he wouldn't get that flatting is probably more lucrative, but he states the motive for his call right there in his tweet, "cuz I don't Wna bust him". Any attempt to spin it any other way is just fanboyism.

[The Camel]

God Keith surely you know all the pokerfarm stuff lol.

It's pretty comedy.

its on this thread camel, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/james-bord-brands-paul-zimbler-conman-hustler-1238058/

I cannot believe I have not seen this thread before.

Astounding reading.

[pleno1]

Its pretty funny. Blingblangblaow confirmed was there and has some pretty funny stories..

The 'these pigeons would grind 'nl25 and if they had a hard spot they'd put  their hand up and a guide would be there to help them' is pretty funny you could probably make a tv show out of the whole thing.

[mondatoo]

Did Paul Zimbler have any defence to the accusation I've read a million times about the missing charity money ? Nevermind all the other shit!

Edit: I wasn't asking just to start round 2 of the Zimbler bashing btw, just if the repeated accusations I've read are true, which I didn't want to just assume were, then I think it's diabolical and an absolute joke that reputable places/tours are asking him to do work for them, really ? The problem is a lot of the poker community/gambler's have such a frivolous attitude to money that they don't acknowledge this sort of situation the way a "normal" person would, people who do this sort of stuff should be forced out of the community, not just accepted and everyone just ignore the scummy stuff they've done. Something like what happened with Blatch were a degen gambler got loads of people to give him money and knocked it in is forgivable imo, not defending him obv but shit happens. Someone calculatingly setting out to steal from people is very different though and it's sad that people just think it's acceptable and these people are welcomed in the poker world, they shouldn't be able to show their faces again.

[gouty]

@thinkingpoker: What? RT @Samtrickett1: That's annoying!!! My horse opens and I have AA so I can't 3bet,cuz I don't Wna bust him,haha!

This guy is crazy tweeting that. Wtf?

[gouty]

Actually it's only half a tweet maybe?

Weird. He deleted it pretty quick tho.

Surely he can't be that daft?

[TightEnd]

Did Paul Zimbler have any defence to the accusation I've read a million times about the missing charity money ? Nevermind all the other shit!

Edit: I wasn't asking just to start round 2 of the Zimbler bashing btw, just if the repeated accusations I've read are true, which I didn't want to just assume were, then I think it's diabolical and an absolute joke that reputable places/tours are asking him to do work for them, really ? The problem is a lot of the poker community/gambler's have such a frivolous attitude to money that they don't acknowledge this sort of situation the way a "normal" person would, people who do this sort of stuff should be forced out of the community, not just accepted and everyone just ignore the scummy stuff they've done. Something like what happened with Blatch were a degen gambler got loads of people to give him money and knocked it in is forgivable imo, not defending him obv but shit happens. Someone calculatingly setting out to steal from people is very different though and it's sad that people just think it's acceptable and these people are welcomed in the poker world, they shouldn't be able to show their faces again.

Ray he absolutely refutes all the charity allegations

He mentioned them to me face to face when I worked with him recently. I don't know the facts either way but don't equate silence with any acceptance on his behalf of some of the stuff being posted

FWIW I would definitely keep an open mind on this. Far too easy to sling mud online and for people (like you here) to assume that it must be true.

The fact is he has been hounded off facebook and other social media by people impersonating him and malicious stuff, so his refutation is not currently there to see as the facebook account where he posted it has been deleted

[TightEnd]

@thinkingpoker: What? RT @Samtrickett1: That's annoying!!! My horse opens and I have AA so I can't 3bet,cuz I don't Wna bust him,haha!

This guy is crazy tweeting that. Wtf?

Merged into here Alex, been discussed on this thread for a few hours already

[mondatoo]

Did Paul Zimbler have any defence to the accusation I've read a million times about the missing charity money ? Nevermind all the other shit!

Edit: I wasn't asking just to start round 2 of the Zimbler bashing btw, just if the repeated accusations I've read are true, which I didn't want to just assume were, then I think it's diabolical and an absolute joke that reputable places/tours are asking him to do work for them, really ? The problem is a lot of the poker community/gambler's have such a frivolous attitude to money that they don't acknowledge this sort of situation the way a "normal" person would, people who do this sort of stuff should be forced out of the community, not just accepted and everyone just ignore the scummy stuff they've done. Something like what happened with Blatch were a degen gambler got loads of people to give him money and knocked it in is forgivable imo, not defending him obv but shit happens. Someone calculatingly setting out to steal from people is very different though and it's sad that people just think it's acceptable and these people are welcomed in the poker world, they shouldn't be able to show their faces again.

Ray he absolutely refutes all the charity allegations

He mentioned them to me face to face when I worked with him recently. I don't know the facts either way but don't equate silence with any acceptance on his behalf of some of the stuff being posted

FWIW I would definitely keep an open mind on this. Far too easy to sling mud online and for people (like you here) to assume that it must be true.

The fact is he has been hounded off facebook and other social media by people impersonating him and malicious stuff, so his refutation is not currently there to see as the facebook account where he posted it has been deleted

I didn't assume it was true ? Just like I said I didn't want to do so, and haven't. My point is relevant whether it be true or not, I never said he personally shouldn't be welcomed, just there are other people who are known to have done scummy things that still play the different circuits everyday and are welcomed to do so.

[TightEnd]

Did Paul Zimbler have any defence to the accusation I've read a million times about the missing charity money ? Nevermind all the other shit!

Edit: I wasn't asking just to start round 2 of the Zimbler bashing btw, just if the repeated accusations I've read are true, which I didn't want to just assume were, then I think it's diabolical and an absolute joke that reputable places/tours are asking him to do work for them, really ?

He refutes it, the repeated accusations obviously aren't proven to be true.

The points italicised and then in bold that you wrote come awfully close to making this point "I never said he personally shouldn't be welcomed," that you then wrote a bit moot

I repeat I don't know either way about it all, I keep an open mind and I assume this what people using Paul for poker work are doing

[mondatoo]

Did Paul Zimbler have any defence to the accusation I've read a million times about the missing charity money ? Nevermind all the other shit!

Edit: I wasn't asking just to start round 2 of the Zimbler bashing btw, just if the repeated accusations I've read are true, which I didn't want to just assume were, then I think it's diabolical and an absolute joke that reputable places/tours are asking him to do work for them, really ?

He refutes it, the repeated accusations obviously aren't proven to be true.

The points italicised and then in bold that you wrote come awfully close to making this point "I never said he personally shouldn't be welcomed," that you then wrote a bit moot

I repeat I don't know either way about it all, I keep an open mind and I assume this what people using Paul for poker work are doing

You just ignored the bit were I said "if the repeated accusation I've read are true" ?

If it's all false rumours then the rest of that sentence can be ignored. The rest of my post is regards the whole community and there attitude and not just one persons behaviour so not sure how it's moot but ok.