Tough flop spot with Aces

[MC]

I have late regged the Hot $109, and this is my first hand. Both villains are unknowns.

What is our plan?

PokerStars Hand #86152822272: Tournament #610988162, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2012/09/14 8:02:52 WET [2012/09/14 3:02:52 ET]
Table '610988162 16' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Khelsurion (4560 in chips)
Seat 2: epitomised (3000 in chips)
Seat 3: jenpe05 (3925 in chips)
Seat 4: merzavets65 (4729 in chips)
Seat 5: Sg Shark121 (2325 in chips)
Seat 6: olimach (2790 in chips)
Seat 7: mark1312 (7840 in chips)
Seat 8: flanders9 (2625 in chips)
Seat 9: shawry5 (2205 in chips)
merzavets65: posts small blind 40
Sg Shark121: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to epitomised [ ]
olimach: folds
mark1312: raises 120 to 200
flanders9: calls 200
shawry5: folds
Khelsurion: folds
epitomised: raises 320 to 520
jenpe05: folds
merzavets65: folds
Sg Shark121: folds
mark1312: calls 320
flanders9: calls 320
*** FLOP *** [ ]
mark1312: checks
flanders9: checks
epitomised:

[muckthenuts]

More pre

Mostly check to keep the pot small or sometimes bet/fold flop. If you get raised on this flop if you're not crushed already they have at least a ton of equity.

[discomonkey]

600ish pre with the caller. we have 2:1 stack pot ratio so i think just bet/get it in vs one guy and bet fold vs both

[pleno1]

Bet calling seems really bad right? Can't we just c/f it's realllly bad board even if he bluffs with kq, jk etc he still has equity and vs his value range we are dead

[discomonkey]

we cant c/f we are in position...

there is 1500 in there, we had 3k(now 2500) to start the hand and flanders had 2600...(now 2100) we have 2 aces and you think we dont have the best hand that much??

[corkeye]

Checking back flop all day long here.
 
Barrelling this flop leads to one opponent check raising you so often with a huge chunk of his range. Then what? Puts u in a gross spot and there's plenty of cards on turn ur gonna hate and very few ur going to be happy with apart from abs blanks

[Pugwashed]

600ish pre with the caller. we have 2:1 stack pot ratio so i think just bet/get it in vs one guy and bet fold vs both

I think this seems best. Vs just 1 one I think we have to get in AA with this SPR

[discomonkey]

Checking back flop all day long here.
 
Barrelling this flop leads to one opponent check raising you so often with a huge chunk of his range. Then what? Puts u in a gross spot and there's plenty of cards on turn ur gonna hate and very few ur going to be happy with apart from abs blanks

we arent going to have multiple decisions to make here, vs one guy we can bet/get it in, vs 2 people we can bet/fold, if we get c/c which i feel will be pretty rare we can shove on safe turns and reevaluate on the dangerous ones.

[MC]

Yeah agree I should make it ~650 pre. I think I panic-raised with my timebank running down as sometimes happens.

Okay so we check the flop, are we okay with the rest?

PokerStars Hand #86152822272: Tournament #610988162, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2012/09/14 8:02:52 WET [2012/09/14 3:02:52 ET]
Table '610988162 16' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Khelsurion (4560 in chips)
Seat 2: epitomised (3000 in chips)
Seat 3: jenpe05 (3925 in chips)
Seat 4: merzavets65 (4729 in chips)
Seat 5: Sg Shark121 (2325 in chips)
Seat 6: olimach (2790 in chips)
Seat 7: mark1312 (7840 in chips)
Seat 8: flanders9 (2625 in chips)
Seat 9: shawry5 (2205 in chips)
merzavets65: posts small blind 40
Sg Shark121: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to epitomised [ ]
olimach: folds
mark1312: raises 120 to 200
flanders9: calls 200
shawry5: folds
Khelsurion: folds
epitomised: raises 320 to 520
jenpe05: folds
merzavets65: folds
Sg Shark121: folds
mark1312: calls 320
flanders9: calls 320
*** FLOP *** [ ]
mark1312: checks
flanders9: checks
epitomised: checks
*** TURN *** [ ] []
mark1312: bets 480
flanders9: folds
epitomised: calls 480
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
mark1312: bets 6840 and is all-in
epitomised: calls 2000 and is all-in

[skolsuper]

Agree with Karl itt, except that I think 520 sizing is fine, disappointed to hear it was a misclick.

[SuuPRlim]

turn is really tilting, FOLD? IDK lol, I agree with the dissscccccccooo r.e the flop though.

[MC]

Agree with Karl itt, except that I think 520 sizing is fine, disappointed to hear it was a misclick.

Fine or optimal? Maybe 580-620 ftw?

[AlexMartin]

how is sizing pre bad? looks fine.  Get 1/6th of stack in pre ip w AA, yummy. B/c now, fk them in 2012 see some lunacy/extreme optimism in these spots