RSQ - The Portsmouth Connection

[MintTrav]

"The age of a fish is calculated in much the same way as one works out the age of a tree by counting its rings; most fish have growth rings on their scales known as annuli. This technique was used to estimate the age of Hanako, meaning "flower maid", the world's oldest koi carp, who died in 1977 at the age of 226 years."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/apr/12/animalwelfare.world

Last time I looked, 226 > 100

Hanako? LOL. You don't believe that,do you. Carp live to 50-60 years. The only evidence for Hanako being over 200 years old is that it's owner said so. There is no other evidence that I know of. I don't believe that something lived to 4 times as old as it's species usually does.

[technolog]

"The age of a fish is calculated in much the same way as one works out the age of a tree by counting its rings; most fish have growth rings on their scales known as annuli. This technique was used to estimate the age of Hanako, meaning "flower maid", the world's oldest koi carp, who died in 1977 at the age of 226 years."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/apr/12/animalwelfare.world

Last time I looked, 226 > 100

did you google this?
My mate has a koi farm and they have 2 at 75 +

This is RSQ & boshi we're talking about. Of course he googled it.

[Tal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula

In this process the medusa of the immortal jellyfish is transformed into the polyps of a new polyp colony. First, the umbrella reverts itself and then the tentacles and mesoglea get resorbed. The reverted medusa then attaches itself to the substrate by the end that had been at the opposite end of the umbrella and starts giving rise to new polyps to form the new colony. Theoretically, this process can go on indefinitely, effectively rendering the jellyfish biologically immortal

Ergo, it CAN - it is possible for it to - live for 100 years

Look at 'is ickle faaaace...

[smashedagain]

There are fish in this country over 100 years old but I only have my mates word for it.

[kinboshi]

Immortal Jellyfish!!!

It regenerates, so has no natural death.

Nothing lives forever. Different types of jellyfish live from a few hours to a few months. The immortal jellyfish reverts to a polyp stage and then reforms as a new jellyfish. In theory, this could go on indefinitely. However, I have rejected it as living to 100 years because:

a) If it is reformed, can it actually be said to be the same creature?

b) the process has only been observed in laboratories; never in the wild so far.

c) No single specimen has been observed for any extended period, so it is not currently possible to estimate the age of an individual, and so even if this species has the potential for immortality, there is no laboratory evidence of many generations surviving from any individual.

d) Even if it has the potential, most potential jellyfish succumb to predation or disease in the plankton stage. An individual would have to pass through this process many hundreds of times to achieve 100 years.

e) Most importantly, there is no example that is known, or even thought, to have lived 100 years.

Humans who live to be 100 do not have a single atom in their body that is part of the 'original' person.  So, is it the same person?

[ruud]

this hasn't gone well at all so far. Next time I'm just going for the obvious answers!

[kinboshi]

"The age of a fish is calculated in much the same way as one works out the age of a tree by counting its rings; most fish have growth rings on their scales known as annuli. This technique was used to estimate the age of Hanako, meaning "flower maid", the world's oldest koi carp, who died in 1977 at the age of 226 years."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/apr/12/animalwelfare.world

Last time I looked, 226 > 100

Hanako? LOL. You don't believe that,do you. Carp live to 50-60 years. The only evidence for Hanako being over 200 years old is that it's owner said so. There is no other evidence that I know of. I don't believe that something lived to 4 times as old as it's species usually does.

I posted another link to ones that live over 100.  There are plenty of them.  You said you wanted one, I'll post half-a-dozen. 

Also, you're argument against Tal's ace is wrong.

[MintTrav]

There are fish in this country over 100 years old but I only have my mates word for it.

If you & boshi can show me show solid evidence, I'll allow it. I don't think you can.

[smashedagain]

#Invalid YouTube Link#
Ffs. That tells of em in Japan

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/34936-226-year-old-koi/

[Tal]

Yeah those scientists weren't sure whether it was capable of living for over 100 years, so they gave it a name that would keep its possible age unclear.

Oh hang on..

[MintTrav]

"The age of a fish is calculated in much the same way as one works out the age of a tree by counting its rings; most fish have growth rings on their scales known as annuli. This technique was used to estimate the age of Hanako, meaning "flower maid", the world's oldest koi carp, who died in 1977 at the age of 226 years."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/apr/12/animalwelfare.world

Last time I looked, 226 > 100

Hanako? LOL. You don't believe that,do you. Carp live to 50-60 years. The only evidence for Hanako being over 200 years old is that it's owner said so. There is no other evidence that I know of. I don't believe that something lived to 4 times as old as it's species usually does.

I posted another link to ones that live over 100.  There are plenty of them.  You said you wanted one, I'll post half-a-dozen. 

Also, you're argument against Tal's ace is wrong.

How. It has never been observed, so there is no evidence. Show me some evidence of one that has lived that long.

[Tal]

Again, it says "CAN" live for over 100 years. It is biologically possible at this time for an example of the species to live for 100 years or more.

Ace, baby!

[smashedagain]

There are fish in this country over 100 years old but I only have my mates word for it.

If you & boshi can show me show solid evidence, I'll allow it. I don't think you can.

tbh if it stops Kinboshi or me winning then just mark it wrong

[Tal]

Don't make me get all modal verb on yo' ass!

[kinboshi]

Again, it says "CAN" live for over 100 years. It is biologically possible at this time for an example of the species to live for 100 years or more.

Ace, baby!

If MintTrav hasn't sat alongside it for 100 years, he won't take it as an acceptable answer.