Hand v Ali Mallu in DTD £150 Deepstack

[david3103]

220 runners around 50 left, 36 paid

SB - Ali Mallu, 150k
BB - Jamie Holland - c400k
UTG - Me - 260k
Blinds 3000/6000/1000

I've started Day2 with 30,600 chips and been on a bit of heater. Now well above average. Jamie Holland has been fairly active although he claims to have 'had the cards', Mr Mallu has also made his share of raises although he will claim later that he's been tight...

I have    and elect to flat in hope of seeing a cheap flop. I don't want to raise fold, but am favourably inclined toward calling a standard raise if necessary.
The table views my limp as 'suspicious' and it folds to Mr M who seems reluctant to make up the blind but does so, and Jamie Holland checks with a knowing look at me. Thoughts on this? It achieved the aim, but I don't like open-limping and felt 'dirty' doing it.

Flop 

Both blinds check to me - I bet 17,000 Comments? It's somewhat outcome dependent to say checking behind avoids the issue

Ali Mallu moves all in for 144k total
Jamie folds

I know I should have a plan here, but I hadn't expected him to move in for 24 BBs at this stage of the hand

What do we expect him to have when he makes this move here?

What do we do?

[pleno1]

raise fold pre flop mate, we still got lots of big blinds, and we should get alot of respect as you're old and raising from ep

[david3103]

raise fold pre flop mate, we still got lots of big blinds, and we should get alot of respect as you're old and raising from ep

Too late for respect based on my age. They've seen me jam utg on the 2nd hand of the day with 75o (BB not at table, I had 12BB at that point - called by Mark McCluskey with AK, flopped a 7, held)

As played though? WWYD if I 'tagged' you having limped?

[JustinSayne]

Just fold pre?

[david3103]

Just fold pre?

meh - 40BBs deep and flopping sets for fun

May have been slightly influenced by having folded 66 a hand or two before to a shove of 30k and Ali Mallu's 3bet of 65k

Flop came 66x......

[BulldozerD]

Raise pre.

Last time I folded a pair vs Ali was probably 2007, so might be tempted to call vs him and fade the 82o

[MANTIS01]

I would be happy to either raise or fold pre David and it would entirely depend on the flow of the game. I would use your mentality of limping intending to call a standard raise only early in the game when the blinds are small.

[youthnkzR]

raise pre, as played fold flop now - seriously what does he move in with that we arent a dog to, he may be mental but hes not lumping here with anything without a good amount of equity, especially as you felt like he put you on a big hand to start with.

[Skippy]

Just fold it pre.

[KarmaDope]

13k pre and flat the 3-bet from Ali/fold to everyone else.

As played - have to fold. Personally would check flop but not sure if this is the right line? We know Alli can get outta line in these spots as he knows board doesnt hit our range enough...

[muckthenuts]

Raise/fold pre mate, goes without saying that open limping definitely isn't a good play in this spot.

I don't know much about Mallu but i think flop is a pretty simple fold.

[SuuPRlim]

Fold.

Ali is mental but he's really going to struggle to show up without something with decent equity vs you here and he CAN have you in bad shape.

Worth considering, all the silly looks pre-flop it looks like everyone might be suspicious you have AA so Ali will have to jam something with at least half decent equity vs that.

[jgcblack]

Having had a couple of big hands vs Ali last time I saw him.

It really depends on what mood he is in at the time, as I've seen him play like a 'nit' for a level then play atc given to him. (seriously)

In this spot I think limping pre is criminal fella, raise/fold pre for sure.

However, when we flop like this vs Ali if he is in a splashy mood and has been active, I'm not folding too often.  He will shove any 5, any pair, sometimes just a gutter... only problem is some of these hands do have equity vs us.

As played I'm tempted to say "we've messed up already, lets not compound the error", but I wouldn't argue against a call purely because I've seen this guy do some really badly times and obviously bad bluffs vs people who aren't folding and he still had air. 

#livereadsftw

[muckthenuts]

Worth considering, all the silly looks pre-flop it looks like everyone might be suspicious you have AA so Ali will have to jam something with at least half decent equity vs that.

Yeah solid point

[david3103]

One small piece of flawed thinking initially leads to horrible outcome - been here before (UKIPT Notts flatting pf raise with rags from BB)

It's all a learning process.

Compounded the error by calling - I felt like i was on a heater and had the straight outs plus two (maybe one) fives to hit

Ali had  and the 5 on the river completed his straight...

I spoke to him afterwards and his read at the time was that I had 'big overcards'.

sigh

It only ever takes one badly played hand and a spot of misfortune doesn't it.