April Jones

[AceHighSuited]

Emotive subject as it is.  There are things that just don't add up.  I haven't seen much posted on here about it, not sure if there has been and its been removed if that is the case apologies in advance. 

The whole episode is a tragic but wtf were the parents thinking?

[George2Loose]

In what sense?

[Matt.NFFC.]

I assume, by letting her play outside at 19:30pm when it's dark.

Let's just hope they find her now, the not knowing has to be worse thing.

Fingers still crossed in hope.

[Micko]

Surely in this case the police should be allowed a pardon to torture the animal they have charged until he tells them where she is. Questioning has got nothing obviously.

[AceHighSuited]

I assume, by letting her play outside at 19:30pm when it's dark.

Let's just hope they find her now, the not knowing has to be worse thing.

Fingers still crossed in hope.

This. 

I think the little girl also has special-needs even more reason why she should never have been allowed out at that time at her age. 

I would argue that things like this happened less when I was that age and by 7:30 - 8pm I would have been bathed and put to bed for the night. 

Obvs. now is not the time for an inquest into the parenting skills. 

[AceHighSuited]

Surely in this case the police should be allowed a pardon to torture the animal they have charged until he tells them where she is. Questioning has got nothing obviously.

I understand what your saying, and wouldn't be adverse to it if we knew he was definitely guilty.  But police in this country have a history of forcing convictions and many are unsafe. If we could be sure that the police were all squeaky clean, whiter than white etc then I would very much be in the "fuck your civil liberties" we have a crime to solve.  But take Hillsborough for example were there were systematic lies from the top all the way down to rank and file officers. 

I happen to know a few coppers and people who have fallen foul of the law and sometimes its difficult to tell who is who.

[Micko]

Surely in this case the police should be allowed a pardon to torture the animal they have charged until he tells them where she is. Questioning has got nothing obviously.

I understand what your saying, and wouldn't be adverse to it if we knew he was definitely guilty.  But police in this country have a history of forcing convictions and many are unsafe. If we could be sure that the police were all squeaky clean, whiter than white etc then I would very much be in the "fuck your civil liberties" we have a crime to solve.  But take Hillsborough for example were there were systematic lies from the top all the way down to rank and file officers. 

I happen to know a few coppers and people who have fallen foul of the law and sometimes its difficult to tell who is who.

It looks 100% he is at the very least been involved with the kidnapping so for me, he should be tortured until the police get the info they need.

[AndrewT]

Ah, I did wonder where the World Jumping to Conclusions Championships were being held this year.

[celtic]

Your first post says wtf were the parents thinking, then you say, this is not the time to discuss their parenting skills?

So, the parents let their special needs child out out alone in the dark at 7.30pm. They deserve all they get.

I mean, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

I haven't paid too much attention to the full story, but I thought it was 7pm? And she was with friends? Also, how many children across the UK play out at that time? It's just too easy to say the parents are to blame imo.

[Karabiner]

I'm amazed that the guy's vehicle seems to have disappeared with little/no mention on the news.

Also I don't think confessions obtained by torture are admissable as evidence.

[Laxie]

Awful case for sure, but something's been bothering me about 'the vehicle'.  They kept going on about a white or light coloured vehicle.  Suddenly they arrest a guy and show us a photo of a dark blue one.  WTF?!  I'm sorry, but I don't know any child who would mistake light for dark.  They might get the rest of the details wrong, but that bit is surely straight forward?  It just doesn't make sense.

[AceHighSuited]

Your first post says wtf were the parents thinking, then you say, this is not the time to discuss their parenting skills?

So, the parents let their special needs child out out alone in the dark at 7.30pm. They deserve all they get.

I mean, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

I haven't paid too much attention to the full story, but I thought it was 7pm? And she was with friends? Also, how many children across the UK play out at that time? It's just too easy to say the parents are to blame imo.

I never at any point suggested they deserved this.  

My initial thought when watching the TV coverage was wtf, that's why I wrote it like that.   I don't want this thread to be about judging the parents but ultimately they have a responsibility.  

I am going with what I have seen reported, it looks like this little girl was a fair distance from her home playing with these friends.  

Obviously the cops know more than what they are allowing into the public domain but for me there is something just not right with the whole situation.  

[AndrewT]

I am going with what I have seen reported, it looks like this little girl was a fair distance from her home playing with these friends. 

250m away.

Years ago during the holidays kids would be pushed out of the door in the morning and not be expected back before dinnertime - they'd get up to all sorts of mischief and there were just as many nonces around then (jingle jangle).

[celtic]

Your first post says wtf were the parents thinking, then you say, this is not the time to discuss their parenting skills?

So, the parents let their special needs child out out alone in the dark at 7.30pm. They deserve all they get.

I mean, why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

I haven't paid too much attention to the full story, but I thought it was 7pm? And she was with friends? Also, how many children across the UK play out at that time? It's just too easy to say the parents are to blame imo.

I never at any point suggested they deserved this.  

My initial thought when watching the TV coverage was wtf, that's why I wrote it like that.   I don't want this thread to be about judging the parents but ultimately they have a responsibility.  

I am going with what I have seen reported, it looks like this little girl was a fair distance from her home playing with these friends.  

Obviously the cops know more than what they are allowing into the public domain but for me there is something just not right with the whole situation.  

Why would your initial thought be wtf? Why would anyones first thought be wtf?

[bobAlike]

The point is none of us know what really happened or the cirumstances which led her parents to believe it safe outside for a 5 year old child. To a lot of people in this country, and others around the world, leaving your kids to play outside without adult supervision is/has become the norm. A lot of people are saying that you could in days gone by. What a load of tosh.
Unfortunately there are bad people in this world fortunately there are far more good people.

I for one don't think it's right but I'm not going to pass judgement on these poor people who are missing their dear child.

I hope they find her but the odds are stacked against it.