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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2012, 12:41:41 PM »

Would villain shove here with just the ten though?

George the Villain in question is Shaky, maybe you could help me with the description of his play other than maniacal
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2012, 12:50:16 PM »

OTR you have all the boats aside from T3 and prolly 88 in your range (you can actually have 88 prolly mind) so if he is reading the game well he shouldn't be bluffing here because it's perfectly reasonable you'll have a hand to call with, by the same logic, he shouldn't be value-betting a great deal worse because you can have a better hand.
given villains description/line up, this type of reasoning shouldnt be applied. well be taking really suboptimal lines for any game <200nl level imo and i assume this live game ~ 50nl at best.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2012, 01:30:24 PM »

Tuesday game?

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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2012, 01:49:07 PM »

Would villain shove here with just the ten though?

George the Villain in question is Shaky, maybe you could help me with the description of his play other than maniacal

Where's this game?
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2012, 01:54:02 PM »

Private mate. Don't want u boys coming down 3 and 4 betting our recs
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2012, 02:00:27 PM »

Private mate. Don't want u boys coming down 3 and 4 betting our recs

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2012, 02:20:07 PM »

This hand occurred a couple of months ago, thought I would post it now, because it was an interesting spot which im still unsure of and it randomly popped into my head!
Before the creation of the Tuesday night game George.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2012, 02:38:10 PM »

in for next tuesday Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2012, 02:50:27 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2012, 05:17:17 PM »

Private mate. Don't want u boys coming down 3 and 4 betting our recs

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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2012, 06:41:19 PM »

OTR you have all the boats aside from T3 and prolly 88 in your range (you can actually have 88 prolly mind) so if he is reading the game well he shouldn't be bluffing here because it's perfectly reasonable you'll have a hand to call with, by the same logic, he shouldn't be value-betting a great deal worse because you can have a better hand.
given villains description/line up, this type of reasoning shouldnt be applied. well be taking really suboptimal lines for any game <200nl level imo and i assume this live game ~ 50nl at best.

in my post I said it was entirely dependent on how we judge he is reading the game, most loose/passive live players will actually read poker very simplistically along these lines "best just call with my TEN, in case he has a better TEN or a full house" they aren't actually thinking in the terms "well he has all the better hands in his range so there is no value to raising" but that is actually what they are thinking.

If we don't think he is reading the game AT ALL then it's different but I don't like to assume people no nothing id prefer to give them some credit and be guilty of over-estimating them not under-estimating them as in my experience under estimating them is usually more expensive.
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« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2012, 06:03:02 AM »

IMO this is a pretty clear, if annoying, bet/fold. I might not make the fold in game though unless I was super focussed and on my A game.
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