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« on: October 13, 2012, 02:52:14 PM » |
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Hi all, Just recentley have found myself in similar situation a few times at various stages of tourneys, with ace rag hands when in the SB or BB when its had a few limpers from varying positions. Nearly always end up just making up SB or checking BB, then spewing/paying off or calling down marginal spots , would like to hear any advice about what best plays are in various scenarios are. Couple of examples maybe.... 1) 200/400 stack of 6500 utg limp cut off limps we have a7 off in bb 2) 400/800 stack of 6500 mid pos limp sb limp we haave a7 off in bb 3) 200/400 stack 6500 utg +1 limp button limp we have a7 off in sb 4) 400/800 stack 6500 utg+1 limps sb limps we have a7 off in bb 5) 200/400 stack 10000 utg and button limp we have a9 sooooted in sb 6) 200/400 stack 10000 utg and sb limp we have a9 soooooted in bb also any other ideas/scenarios and what to do in certain situations/positons also appreciated
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 03:03:25 PM » |
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online or live?
assuming online: (stacks of limpers is pretty important, for the purpose of this ima gona assume they cover everytime so answers could be different dependant on villians stacks)
1. check 2. jam 3. fold 4. jam 5. complete 6. 800 play post IP with the initiative and a good hand. sometimes he will just fold too.
im also assuming all these have antes too again may change with/without antes
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@MtSpewmore I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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atdc21
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 03:05:23 PM » |
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Hi thanks for reply, either live or online , but has been happening more in live tourneys where i have been doing chips
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 03:07:17 PM » |
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live i would prob jam #1 too. i think checking is ok though.
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@MtSpewmore I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 03:08:11 PM » |
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Yeah assume villains always cover no antes in the live touney also tal utg is also in last scenario
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 03:10:42 PM » |
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no antes would check #1, all others do the same i think
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@MtSpewmore I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 03:34:19 PM » |
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Shoving first 4 ainic unless I've missed something
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 03:34:36 PM » |
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 03:42:43 PM » |
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ok ty Alex, is it really that simple in those situations? no wonder im doing chips in these spots, seems i must be over complicating things. any other replies still welcome, what about last 2 spots alex?
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 03:47:08 PM » |
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16bigs is alot with no antes imo. I also assume its a low buyin as theres alot of limping so people gona be limping aces/pairs that dominate us. With antes i can get on board with shoving 1 and think its best. Dont think 3 is a shove tbh even with antes
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@MtSpewmore I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 03:47:38 PM » |
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Completing/checking last two cos oop. Am out atm will write longer post explaining 2mora but yeh these are all pretty standard spots.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 03:51:07 PM » |
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Ok thanks tl900 and Alex, yes they are usually £30-£50 freezeouts (live)
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 05:41:59 PM » |
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Like alex said i am jamming first 4 and this is not even close to the bottom of my range
Flick in the last 2 and look to flop huge
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 06:00:50 PM » |
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Hi buffy, so u would shove any ace in first 4 examples yes?
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 07:17:54 PM » |
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Hi buffy, so u would shove any ace in first 4 examples yes?
no prob not, peoples limp calling range to shoves like this tend to include lots of Ax hands. Of which if we shove A2-5 type hands will be dominated a lot. I am much more incliined to shove broadways and suited connectors than the real raggy aces. Also if someone does happen to be 'trapping you' which they will once in a while your a lot more likely to crack them when the do from time to time
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