Stephen Lee

[horseplayer]

fascinating article i have just stumbled upon

http://www.snookerbacker.com/2012/10/15/stephen-lee-guilty-until-proven-innocent/

from what i have read i am pretty sure in my opinion this does not look very good (to say the least) my only real doubt is to why if he did do this he chose to do so against an opponent whose every match is now scrutinized to the nth degree?

any views?

[ACE2M]

There are plenty of bent games but these often accelerate as part of their own hype.

It may have been bent and the people involved might have had a good thing going where they make 30k on a game regularly without issue. Someone may have sqwauked, they sqwauked to someone else, someone in the industry got wind and now the snowball really takes off and there are 100s of thousands getting traded. Or someone just made it up and started the rumour and it got off the ground that way.

What would genuinely offer an insight is who was trading on the games.

[claypole]

That is a really good piece.

Got to be honest, my own personal opinion after watching footage and reading analysis is it doesn't look good.  There is some strange shot selection earlier than the blue to pink shots - I wouldn't like to be in his shoes

[horseplayer]

That is a really good piece.

Got to be honest, my own personal opinion after watching footage and reading analysis is it doesn't look good.  There is some strange shot selection earlier than the blue to pink shots - I wouldn't like to be in his shoes

agreed

[TheChipPrince]

Why oh why 2 days after being cleared would he though?

Even the dimmest bulb wouldn't choose this timing surely?

[action man]

he's guilty as sin

[The Camel]

Why oh why 2 days after being cleared would he though?

Even the dimmest bulb wouldn't choose this timing surely?

If you owe the wrong sort of people alot of money, you'll do anything they tell you.

[buzzharvey22]

hes a total bell end

i paid a couple of hundred for a charity, to have a frame and bit of a mess around with steven lee. (never really liked him anyway but it was charity, so who cares)

He broke, i somehow managed a long red, pink, red then missed a blue. he cleared up. quick handshake and that was that, bellend

[claypole]

hes a total bell end

i paid a couple of hundred for a charity, to have a frame and bit of a mess around with steven lee. (never really liked him anyway but it was charity, so who cares)

He broke, i somehow managed a long red, pink, red then missed a blue. he cleared up. quick handshake and that was that, bellend

Alot of love for this ppst - especially "bellend"

[ACE2M]

hes a total bell end

i paid a couple of hundred for a charity, to have a frame and bit of a mess around with steven lee. (never really liked him anyway but it was charity, so who cares)

He broke, i somehow managed a long red, pink, red then missed a blue. he cleared up. quick handshake and that was that, bellend

tbh that makes me like him more than i did previously.

[smashedagain]

hes a total bell end

i paid a couple of hundred for a charity, to have a frame and bit of a mess around with steven lee. (never really liked him anyway but it was charity, so who cares)

He broke, i somehow managed a long red, pink, red then missed a blue. he cleared up. quick handshake and that was that, bellend

Alot of love for this ppst - especially "bellend"

+1..... Maybe you should have offered him a back hander

[AndrewT]

hes a total bell end

i paid a couple of hundred for a charity, to have a frame and bit of a mess around with steven lee. (never really liked him anyway but it was charity, so who cares)

He broke, i somehow managed a long red, pink, red then missed a blue. he cleared up. quick handshake and that was that, bellend

Bolded bit makes it sound like you were trying for a tight brown.

[bobby1]

He is just bent and it's embarrassing that he has been allowed to play on for so long but he must be so stupid he just doesn't get it yet.

When his mates ( and I mean coded accounts saying friend of Stephen Lee, careful all snooker) or ( puts on for Stephen Lee) are all ploughing into him to lose first frames, sessions and matches this is what then happens.

The traders from firm A that they get on with go and bet it themselves with firm B, Firm B 's traders look at the market and see its getting shorter  and they go and bet it with Firm C and so on, Firm C get themselves on and when you get down to firm H almost every trader in the industry is on, usually with each other.

So the market is now alive  and all the follow onners have got on too so it becomes a huge gamble when at the start they were just trying to nick 2-3k nice and quiet.

When the firms are talking about lots of bets from the same area all on the same selection and from new accounts too, it is usually a load of industry people doing the rounds.

Joe Jogia got 2 years for getting his mates to bet the other guy in one of his matches and then bottling it when he realised the word was out and he pulled out of the match, he still got 2 years.

This **** has been pulling the same strokes for years yet good old Barry Hearn has got a sham of a security system . It is basically manned by his mates/ confidants and is happy to slap a few no names down coz they don't make him any money  but is not dealing with the ones that are at it that he needs to sell tickets and TV deals.

[AceHighSuited]

I work for an online company, we're a small outfit but one thing that has always bothered me as a punter is what about the times when we have  info relating to certain events that we take money off joe public and we know they have no chance of winning.  suppose you gotta take the rough with the smooth.  When bookmakers and industry insiders cry foul that equally gets on my goat as much as the likes of Lee cheating does.

[bobby1]

Me too, that example above is when the workers of the firms are on for more between them than Lee and his mates.

Then the hierachy at the firms are telling stories about punters only wanting one side, lots of new accounts etc, most of these bets and new accounts are usually from places like Leeds, Essex, Stoke and Gib.

A lot of years ago I got involved in betting one of these hooky matches as a follow onner when I didn't know better. We chopped it off and the match was investigated. A few months down the line we all got warnings from the gaffers coz they had passed on the details of the customers that had bet on the match with us to the police and in return were asked to explain why the names of almost all their trading team had been passed on to them by other firms for betting it with them.

It didnt look good when they were explaining it was crooked when on paper the people that benefitted the most were mainly bookmaker staff.