1knl very deep, marginally ahead, way behind spot

[pleno1]

UTG is huge whale, guy in sb seems reggy but no sample, but hasnt shown any aggression yet.

$5/$10  No Limit Holdem 
Prima 
6 Players 
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com 
 
Stacks: 
UTG  Player3 ($4,706.80) 471bb 
UTG+1  Player4 ($1,027) 103bb 
CO  Player5 ($1,092) 109bb 
BTN  pleno1 ($3,259) 326bb 
SB  Player1 ($1,282) 128bb 
BB  Player2 ($1,716) 172bb 
 
Pre-Flop: ($15, 6 players) pleno1 is BTN :js : 
Player3 raises to $20, 2 folds, pleno1 calls $20, Player1 calls $15, Player2 calls $10 
 
Flop: : :jc : ($80, 4 players) 
Player1 checks, Player2 checks, Player3 bets $80, pleno1 calls $80, Player1 raises to $240, Player2 folds, Player3 calls $160, pleno1 raises to $1,000 
 
Final Pot: $800 
 
 

[Oxford_HRV]

I could imagine seeing SB going in here, could be a little OOL with OESD because image / 4 way? now spr/implied to get in?
UTG coming up with OP, poss AA here, whale trying to milk on rainbow board, thinking they look under repped?

does UTG usually min open, or min when real deep? seems funky to me for whale?

obviously super sick if you're against set or top two, but I'm going in hard here aswell

[shipitonetime]

I think if i am going to play this hand it is better to 3 bet to iso the huge whale? U have position and  initiative. by calling the regs in the blinds are quite likely to enter the pot given said whale is involved. They also may 3 bet and it sucks playing a big pot without the initiative with smaller effective stacks vs them with this weak of a hand even if the whale is still involved.

Really interested in ur reasons for calling here?

[Honeybadger]

I think if i am going to play this hand it is better to 3 bet to iso the huge whale?
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Really interested in ur reasons for calling here?

Slowplaying preflop innit.

[SuuPRlim]

Really interested in ur reasons for calling here?

Seems pretty reasonable, it's a min raise, we're OTB and 320 big blinds deep with a kinda junky suited hand but vs a player Pleno percieves to be very weak, just looking to flop something ginny for $20 or gtfo of there.

Gonna drag the blinds in nearly always but they are going to be forced to play somewhat honestly post-flop (bad spot to be getting too OOL post flop with an unpredictable player IP and Pleno who can get up to mischief himself) but this isn't too much of a hassle given we're really looking to flop quite decent or a strong semi-bluffing opportunity to take off here.

Can't see this being a spot Pleno gonna flop a Jack and take off for his stack all that often, although if anyone can

[shipitonetime]

I guess i meant to say reasons for calling over 3 betting. You think calling is better than 3 betting here?

[SuuPRlim]

I guess i meant to say reasons for calling over 3 betting. You think calling is better than 3 betting here?

mmmmmmmmm, yh I think it is, only in this very specific situation though, would be a bad spot to call in the high majority of cases imo.

[Pinchop73]

Call certainly best. 3b either makes the perceived weaker player fold the weaker parts of his range (which we do not want ldo), or we get 4b by the stronger part of his range, which we do not want holding J5s.

[Pinchop73]

Also loving the flop 3b over a c/r as we are pretty underrepresented when action gets back to us so a nice spot for a fos line with blockers.