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« on: November 04, 2012, 02:11:19 PM »

£1/1 at DTD last night.

Reg is aggro chinese guy. Solid reg who is probably the toughest player on the table. I'm playing ~£240, he covers.

I straddle to 2, villain straddles to 4. Hijack limps, button limps, I elect to limp with   which is maybe slightly weak but didn't expect to get any folds and would be put in tough spots post flop, villain checks.

Flop comes   . I lead for £10, villain calls, hijack calls, button folds. Hijack is a passive recreational player who I expect to call with any pair, gutshots etc and not get too OOL. Villain has a similar range imo.

Turn comes  . I bet £20, villain calls, hijack folds.

River is  three diamonds. I check, intending on check calling which I realise now is probably bad. Bet fold > check call? Villain bets £60...

Reasoning for calling was that he is likely to bet with any Ax to get me off a chop and there aren't too many combos that beat me.


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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 02:30:31 PM »

As much as I hate these spots OOP in limped pots I really think as played this is a call, although I'd probably b/f. Especially if it's the same aggro chinese reg I'm thinking of as he'd actually bet Qx for value on this board.

Can't see him NOT trying to pick it up pre with AQ/A5, board is dry apart from the wheel draw which if he's binked I really think it's just a "nh wp" spot.

Don't think he expects you to be as strong as you are as pre your hand is v underrepped as well. if he has 53/43/32/Q3 (which is possible I guess) then I think we should put it down to a mini-cooler.

Didn't realise you posted on here btw, although you probs don't know me we've played a few bowl comps together and occasionally cash.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 04:12:28 PM »

My problem was that I think my hand is pretty face up and I don't think he expects me to fold very often so at best i'm probably chopping it?

Yeah I want to start posting more on here, who are you btw?
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 04:15:14 PM »

Betting the river seems bad (what do you think he's calling with that you beat?). I think you have to check, I just can't decide whether I like check/call or check/fold. I think it's a check/call
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 04:41:56 PM »

Betting the river seems bad (what do you think he's calling with that you beat?). I think you have to check, I just can't decide whether I like check/call or check/fold. I think it's a check/call

Really don't understand this, what hands is he bluffing/turning into a bluff with that we want to bet? The board is dry so he can't have that many missed draws to bluff with and he has one counterfeited hand which is Q5 which he never has as played.

Surely it's better to bet, get him to MAYBE fold the chop and maybe get stubborn with Qx, and fold to a raise? Seems like checking just puts us in a massively gay spot if he decides to bomb the river.

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2012, 05:50:50 PM »

Betting the river seems bad (what do you think he's calling with that you beat?). I think you have to check, I just can't decide whether I like check/call or check/fold. I think it's a check/call

Really don't understand this, what hands is he bluffing/turning into a bluff with that we want to bet? The board is dry so he can't have that many missed draws to bluff with and he has one counterfeited hand which is Q5 which he never has as played.

Surely it's better to bet, get him to MAYBE fold the chop and maybe get stubborn with Qx, and fold to a raise? Seems like checking just puts us in a massively gay spot if he decides to bomb the river.

Fred, I'm Nik, like I say you probably don't know me, I'll say hi next time I'm around.

I guess I just don't expect him to fold a chop that often. He can have missed draws (gut shots, maybe they fold the turn a lot but the ones with flush draws never do (but assuming suits in the OP are right then we block JTss and KTss)), he can have 34 / 24 / 23 and betting is incorrect vs all of those hands.

I could easily be convinced that this is a check/fold or a check/call but I still think betting is a mistake
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 06:08:22 PM »

Prefer raise pre there's loads of potential dead bb's and we have the best hand no doubt.

Flop/turn are fine.

I think you have to check, I just can't decide whether I like check/call or check/fold. I think it's a check/call

Agree with not betting river which seems pretty bad. I'm checking river and it should be to fold, we're not really inducing from anything. If we check i expect a 1/1 reg to check back most of the time and not try and turn Ax into a bluff so we fold a chop. He can have gutshots with a 3 he decided to hold onto, 55, A5, A3, Q3, 53.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 06:14:16 PM »

1 £25 chip pre.

turn is far too small.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 07:07:29 PM »

Definitely raise pre, I make it in the £20-25 region.

As played, bigger on the turn. You're going to want to bet 60-80% pot most of the time, so £20 into £46 is horribly weak and one of the reasons we're turning our hand face up.

River we're calling to chop, and we have to be right three out of five times. I think we're beat more often than that, so it's a pretty clear check/fold imo.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 07:53:56 PM »

Yeah agree with everything here.

Check folding just seemed bad at the time as I didn't think he would check behind any of his range that we were beating/chopping with so was an easy spot for him to bluff...
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 03:40:20 AM »

Limping is OK. Would raise vs certain villains but I would limp vs others so I definitely believe its possible that limping is the best option.

Raising AJ almost always though, and never A9.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2012, 03:54:12 AM »

I am calling all day long. I can't see him having a three (+ flop pair) as he would have bet turn, imo.

I was typing what I thought & thought it sounded to goofy.

Problems:

- You should raise pre
- Bigger bet on turn (you still have 2 punters remember)

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 05:29:58 PM »

bigger ott for sure,
have to raise pre, you dont have to bet when its a terrible board but we want money in when we hit vs 3 fish
otr vs descriebd villain, sigh/call
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2012, 02:50:57 PM »

What did villian have?
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