Confidence at an all time low so playing badly and clueless.

[aaron1867]

I have to agree with Mantis and Tighty.

You have put them down on certain hands & assumed PJ's play, at worst you are racing in this spot.

As for anything else, you just need to get yourself in better shape at the table and stop thinking like the worst is always going to happen. Not only this, but I don't think you would have posted this if the outcome would have been different, as you would have been rather pleased with fold?

I am sure things will improve, refer to PM with regards to 'scared money'.

Chin up Jase, I am sure things will improve.

[smashedagain]

Great post from Mantis and congratulations on picking up on my attitude at the table. I am low in confidence and hating the game and this is coming out in my snide bitter comments at people. We had this one prick at the table who kept having a go at everyone for how bad their calls were, who announces a raise of 1600 then puts 12k in the pot and his mistake is pointed out to him, when another man makes it 3500 then gets back to prick who then wants to 4 bet to 8k in an angle shoot. Why should that ever bother me but it did so when he then had a pop at Amjad latter on in the day I let him have both barrels about his lack of a single decent cash and Amjad being Dtd's loyalist customer. It was like the shit old days of casino poker with me being the bigger prick and arsehole.

I have to have fun when playing poker and enjoy the craic but Wadey & Frankie have pointed out to me that I  talking to much. The not noticing PeeJay was a joke that I never noticed him was because I thought he was the "forgotten one" but that is Tom High (both pretty similar looking kids to me).

Once again the telling people PeeJay is the 2nd best player at the table along the same lines as telling the dealer she is the 2nd best looking person in the card room. I take tighty's point about not concentrating and admit in the past couple of years I am on here whilst playing. These days you never see me wearing the beats anymore even tho when I used to wear them I never had any music playing through em.

As for sharing the information about PeeJay this was also done with a purpose as he had direct position on me and would make my life difficult. I want everyone to know how good he is and not to Donk chips to him unnecessarily and also to understand as a decent player the game/moves he has.

As for my up for the craic attitude/image (bit like the hoodies) it all serves to help in me getting called light so often. I have so many friends in poker and love chatting to them and if I ain't seen  for ages I enjoy the social side and shooting the breeze with em.

The bit about PeeJay is a bit tounge in cheek but he does not posses that table aura that some of the younger players have. When sat opposite Tommy Bingham, Liam Batty, Tom Langley, Tom Kuggelstadt, etc they have an air of confidence that PeeJay does not have. PeeJay looks to be caught in the headlights but is undoubtedly got the ability.

When he got involved in the did he check or did he not hand he looked like he was about to burst out crying. I was not helping by telling Pam not to side with PeeJay just coz he is local.

I hope that I don't come across as a ***** at the table, I know sometimes people I never met take it wrong, but I got a few laughs when Gabby tried to sort out the hot tea fiasco with Amjad. She was wearing a nice dress showing off all her curves and thanked me for my compliment. She did not know what to do with herself when I then asked her what sort of knickers was she wearing for us to not be able to see a visable panty line.

You are right Aaron. Usually this stuff would not bother me but like I say confidence is low. Going for 2 years cashing for fun to 2 years of not getting above starting stack is not much fun. I even started blaming the last 2 years down turn on my mum getting cancer then dieing, which once again is complete bollocks.

Maybe we should move this thread out of pha coz its got fuck all to do with the hand either

[TightEnd]

Just read all that back Jason

Its ridiculous

You need to get your head in the game and stop shooting the breeze, talking bollocks and not concentrating at the table

Remove ephemeral crap from your mind when you are playing.

[Marty719]

She was wearing a nice dress showing off all her curves and thanked me for my compliment. She did not know what to do with herself when I then asked her what sort of knickers was she wearing for us to not be able to see a visable panty line.

I dnt know u at alll, but don't be that guy...

[tikay]

For the record. I have shared many Tables with Jason, & although he says some unorthodox things, he does not do so with malice aforethought.

I'd go so far as to say he is an absolute pleasure to share a table with, & much fun is usually had when he is around, it's the very essence of Live Poker to enjoy ourselves - we are not Pros, after all, nor are hardly any of our table companions.

Live, he is a top top bloke, & I heartily recommend his company to anyone. 

Online, of course, he is a total pita & a complete cock. And that is on a good day.   

[smashedagain]

Just read all that back Jason

Its ridiculous

You need to get your head in the game and stop shooting the breeze, talking bollocks and not concentrating at the table

Remove ephemeral crap from your mind when you are playing.

so what do I do Richard, sit there quietly not enjoying my day out. Obv my primary reason to be there is win money and feed the kids as poker is now my only source of income but I have to enjoy playing poker or I might as well do 6-2 on the steelworks.


Hey Marty I always have a laugh with all the staff and they get treated well. Most of  em are friends on Facebook and talk regular. When I think back how many great people who gave worked at Dtd who no longer work there it is quite frightening. My latest fav Penny did her last shift yesterday. But we are discussingy morale not staff morale.


Lol Ty Tony. Pretty sure things may turn round soon, or not

[aaron1867]

Jason you are 100% right about having a chat and a laugh at a table, because you always want good company rather than all the seriousness of playing cards and trying to make a dollar. I hate sitting at the poker table and listen to people talk about poker and how hand just played out should have played or going through theories every hand, it is just dull. It is much more interesting to listen to random stories about pretty much anything, but from the one time I did share a table with a few months ago, you do talk way to much, you are not picking up what certain players are doing & so on, but to a certain extent you can't stop being you, which is being sociable.

You just need to talk a bit less, maybe wear a nice shirt once in a while too, creates less talking points

[TightEnd]

Get the balance right

At the moment, too much bollocks, not enough concentration


and I watch you play poker a lot, sadly.

[MC]

There's some good advice here Jason, you should take it on board.

Quite a big reason I play live poker sometimes is for the social interaction. Being an online grinder can suck in that respect. But I am very aware that when I am chatting (which when I get going is usually pretty incessantly, sitting next to me is generally a bad draw if you're friendly), I am not concentrating properly, and am playing worse. Whenever I think it's time to concentrate, I get the old headphones out, and I'll generally be benefiting from it.

Having a good time at the table can be fun, but winning is more fun. Obv I'm not suggesting that is the reason you are losing, but you've got to give yourself the best shot.

[smashedagain]

Get the balance right

At the moment, too much bollocks, not enough concentration


and I watch you play poker a lot, sadly.

yeah I know. I  am just looking for a quote from you when I was at the peak of my powers in 2010 when you said I was one of the best players you'd seen around the time I had finaled to deepstacks running and bubbled the next one.

I think if I remember right my lifetime of luck ran out in the hand where on the bubble we getting it all in

Me  
Villan   x

On Q 10 8 and it came 8 8 to give him a full house. Gonna look back now to get exact hand



Thanks James, maybe I am kidding myself that I can chat and play optimally all the time. I am pretty sure I have chatted at the tables for ever, am I wrong about this tighty?

[TightEnd]

Yes you are who you are.

However there's a big difference between now and then, and its to do with table presence

Back then you were Bombastic and confident.

Now at the table the joviality is a bit forced (but I only notice because I know you reasonably). When you are quiet at the table meanwhile, you sit there like a frightened mouse, hunched over your chips, eyes darting around

Classic case of lack of confidence/money/bad run etc


This is meant to be helpful, its not a criticism. Its clear why this is happening, and I'd advocate some PMA, perhaps a read of Tendler and just concentrating on your game

[AndrewT]

There's more to life than poker.

Do something else for a bit - enjoy that.

You might not even miss poker.

[MANTIS01]

Having a laugh and enjoying their day out isn't the priority for most people when they go to work. Enjoying work is a bonus you can afford yourself if you are producing acceptable results. If you're flopping at your job you SHOULD feel pressure and you SHOULD be knuckling down to basics. In the end if I kept trying to have a laugh at work while producing shit results my boss would sack me. So maybe you WILL end up on the steelworks if you keep producing shit results at your job.

In the hand if you tell people bb is a rock while secretly thinking he will blow up the info you get back is much crisper. The way you're doing things is using your skills to analyse the situation and then showing off to the table by telling them all about it. I could walk into LA Fitness today and tell them about a great marketing idea I have to get new members. They use that idea tomorrow to win loads of new members when I was gonna use it next week to win myself those new members. Because of me their business prospers and mine goes bust. How is this having a laugh? I don't think it's about malice or nice guy whatever, it's about how shrewd and calculating you are with the skills you've got.

[DMorgan]

There's some good advice here Jason, you should take it on board.

Quite a big reason I play live poker sometimes is for the social interaction. Being an online grinder can suck in that respect. But I am very aware that when I am chatting (which when I get going is usually pretty incessantly, sitting next to me is generally a bad draw if you're friendly), I am not concentrating properly, and am playing worse. Whenever I think it's time to concentrate, I get the old headphones out, and I'll generally be benefiting from it.

Having a good time at the table can be fun, but winning is more fun. Obv I'm not suggesting that is the reason you are losing, but you've got to give yourself the best shot.

Yeh last time we got drawn together I'm pretty sure I just folded for 2 hours =/

It really is surprising (or at least it was to me) just how tough it is to concentrate and play optimally while you're chatting away to a few people. Obviously its great to catch up with some of the people that you only ever see at poker events but you're probably better off shooting the breeze in the bar than at the tables when you're really in need of a decent score.

[nirvana]

Fold all your bad hands, raise your strong hands,  and do some more bets after that, don't call for value. Within a few weeks you'll be back on track