Confidence at an all time low so playing badly and clueless.

[bobby1]

Hi Jason,

Sorry to hear you are in poor form but confidence and cards can come and go in a heartbeat. One thing you can do tho is have the right approach and gameplan  and some of the things mentioned on here by others make a lot of sense.

One thing that helps me a lot when I hit the wall is get a copy of 'Feel the fear and do it anyway' by Susan Jeffers, go somewhere nice for a few days and just read it in one go.

cheers

[smashedagain]

Yes you are who you are.

However there's a big difference between now and then, and its to do with table presence

Back then you were Bombastic and confident.

Now at the table the joviality is a bit forced (but I only notice because I know you reasonably). When you are quiet at the table meanwhile, you sit there like a frightened mouse, hunched over your chips, eyes darting around

Classic case of lack of confidence/money/bad run etc


This is meant to be helpful, its not a criticism. Its clear why this is happening, and I'd advocate some PMA, perhaps a read of Tendler and just concentrating on your game

i have always had positive mental attitude or so I thought. And used to be confident. I can't even find that hand were I flop the nuts and lose to running 8 8 on the bubble. Teller you remember it right? Thought it was April 2011 but I was not even playing and can't ever remember missing a deepstack so must have been at the Irish open or something.
Maybe I should have started a diary

I am taking this all in too Ty everyone.
 
My main focus in life is the 3 boys and everything revolves round them. I quit online poker after playing in my pants for 40 hours a week and becoming a losing player.

Poker has given me the lifestyle I have had, the holidays, the wedding the cars and being mortgage free for getting on for over a decade. On my table on Saturday was a guy from Hull and he was amazed to know I knew all the players in his card room most of whom were sat in there 5 nights a week ten years ago.

Maybe its time to face up to the fact that I can't make a living from playing live poker and move on. I don't like doing anything half heartedly and my match fishing career went down a similar road. I fished semi professionally and was sponsored and fished at the highest level in team fishing, qualified and fished the world club championships as a team then walked away. I gave away £20l worth of fishing tackle to mates and told em if I ever came back I'd get it back


Wow four more heros posted whilst writing this. Must get this posted but will read other replies now.

Ty so much for the responses as I am now feeling quite humble

[TightEnd]

The flopped straight on the bubble was a DTD. I updated it

You swatted it off like it was no bother.


If it happened now, you'd be at my side for an hour :-)



When you lost AK v QQ in the recent £500 you came over, i was writing. After about 10 minutes you thrashed your hand into the side of the chair in pure exasperation and disappointment and it obviously really hurt


Some good advice in here, but I think you've answered your own question. Other sources of income, other interests and then when you do play, it won't matter, you won't get down and you'll have fun again

[smashedagain]

Thank once again all the heros. Am definatly taking it all on board and wi be having a look at the reading material. It was funny but when George was selected to be the subject for the Tendler evaluation I was at the peak of my performance thinking at the time, "what does George need that for coz he is a cracking guy and its all about having a positive mental attitude".

100% the game is changing, gonna hold back from saying getting tougher as I think Glen also makes a good point. There are a lot of "less than optimal" players out there still getting the results playing thier game their own way. Even today I am reading stuff about guys who have made serious money on line questioning if the game is becoming to hard to beat and just one big gamble.

Yes losing a race hurt that day hurt more than any 1 outer I have ever taken tighty for sure. My attitude to beats used to be look how well played to there, and I used to be annoyed at sucking out on someone

Volume seems to be a problem, I went from playing 5 nights a week for years to playing twice a month 5 years ago when Alister was born. Now that he is in year 1 and the twins started in reception full time as of September it might be time to get back on the road again. Trouble is all the bread n butter £20 re buy 10k gtd that played somewhere every night of the week no longer exist and the DC games that we played after have all but died out.

Right gotta go shopping now so keep the advice coming please Ty.

[aaron1867]

Right gotta go shopping now so keep the advice coming please Ty.

maybe wear a nice shirt once in a while too, creates less talking points

[atdc21]

Hi Jason, an interesting read .
I love a good laugh at the table but do think its getting harder to try and have laughs and play really well.
 From reading previous posts from you, and from write ups/reports it would be safe to say you are a'wear your heart on your sleeve' type of person. All well and good but in the tourneys now giving away any info/tells/thoughts is gonna be a bad idea, most of these young kids know what/how they are going to continue with a hand as soon as they see the cards(sometimes before they have seen them prob) .
 Saying PEEJAY (whom i do not know btw) has not much experience in life/live situations doesnt really matter because he prob has auto settings for situations in his head , if as you say he was near to tears in one hand he prob still played it out fine, and he isnt the one getting in a strop with himself and looking for reassurance on a forum.
 You seem a decent bloke and good luck with getting back on track.

[pleno1]

Oioi Jason,

If you now depend on poker for a living then you have to try to make some regular income some how ether than playing super high variances tournaments with very Little confidence.

I'd suggest to start playing online. Not only will you be able to make some mony to supplement and support these big buy in monthly tournaments but you would also be able to gain confidence and learn.

In the last 3 months of poker what do ou think you hae learned? Strictly strategical...

Just might be the time to start learning poker again and seeing why all these pesky kids are doing. If you started a blog John black style you would get a huge amount of support and encouragement and I think our chances of both winning a live ornament and being able to support your family would increase ten fold.

[aaron1867]

I'd suggest to start playing online. Not only will you be able to make some mony to supplement and support these big buy in monthly tournaments but you would also be able to gain confidence and learn.

Have you not bothered to read this? He has mentioned that he is losing player online.

[pleno1]

I'd suggest to start playing online. Not only will you be able to make some mony to supplement and support these big buy in monthly tournaments but you would also be able to gain confidence and learn.

Have you not bothered to read this? He has mentioned that he is losing player online.

you are very annoying guy and i cant really be bothered, but have you read the thread, he is not winning live either.

its easier to start to win online than it is to start winning live. you play more hands thus learn more.

there are probably less than 0.5% of people who support their family who can't beat 50nl online. If it is his job and plays 4-5 hours a day 5 days a week he would get significant amounts back in rakeback and then should win profits too. If he doesn't want to do that then it is just lazy and you're not really a "professional" you're jsut somebody playing a few comps for fun a month and hoping to bink something to fund the next few months.

[aaron1867]

I'd suggest to start playing online. Not only will you be able to make some mony to supplement and support these big buy in monthly tournaments but you would also be able to gain confidence and learn.

Have you not bothered to read this? He has mentioned that he is losing player online.

you are very annoying guy and i cant really be bothered, but have you read the thread, he is not winning live either.

But he is winning live though, just not at the moment, so what you are saying is that he should double his current losses as you think he will win, but he says he doesn't?

[pleno1]

what do you mean he is winning live? it doesnt make sense.

he will never play a sufficient sample size live to show he is a winning player or not. its just variance when you play 12 tournaments a year, even 50 tournaments, its absolutely nothing. Moorman can play 250 tournaments and not be upset if he doesnt do so well, this is 5 years live time ffs, even 1k tournaments is nothing, this is 20 years worth of a torunament a week.

Its really not even close ffs.

It wont double his losses, he wont play 500 pound tournaments online, he will play micros and micro cash and learn to play proper 2012 poker.

Playing live tournaments when you're on a big downswing and low in confidence makes zero sense.

start playing online > stop all toghter > play just live.

[atdc21]

Got to agree with pleno here, relearning the game or whatever you want to call it is a good idea, you can do it cheaply, i been playing $5 tournies and after reading advice/ideas different statagies etc it has shown through to my live tourney game.

[aaron1867]

what do you mean he is winning live? it doesnt make sense.

he will never play a sufficient sample size live to show he is a winning player or not. its just variance when you play 12 tournaments a year, even 50 tournaments, its absolutely nothing. Moorman can play 250 tournaments and not be upset if he doesnt do so well, this is 5 years live time ffs, even 1k tournaments is nothing, this is 20 years worth of a torunament a week.

Its really not even close ffs.

It wont double his losses, he wont play 500 pound tournaments online, he will play micros and micro cash and learn to play proper 2012 poker.

Playing live tournaments when you're on a big downswing and low in confidence makes zero sense.

start playing online > stop all toghter > play just live.

You really have not read through all of this have you? He has mentioned he does not want to play online, because he is losing. You do not suddenly become a winning player, because you said so. Also, playing online is totally different game, you might win online, but it doesn't make you confidence amazing in all honesty. You are too much of an online player with less live experience to realise that online is just for not for certain people.

I have said that he is a winning player, he is just having a bad time of it at the moment.

[Tal]

Anyone else feeling self-conscious about just playing live?

[George2Loose]

Jase- you seem to be having similar problems that I experienced a couple of years ago. There's no easy way out of it. I agree with Tighty/Alex/Mantis and to some extent Pleno

How much time do you actually spend studying the game? Working on it? Keeping up with trends? You just cannot win in comps playing snug and making the odd move long term. Also larking about and having fun of course adds to the experience. I often play my best when chatting and interacting but this is part of a longer term plan in game. I get the feeling you're just talking etc cos you wanna be liked/be the joker.

When I was struggling one person really impressed me when watching playing. Might be a bit surprising but I watched James Akenhead play on a few poker TV shows. Yes he's quiet and perhaps doesn't add much in terms of entertainment but watching him play with such intense concentration and focus was inspiring.

My advice- learn the game, love the GAME rather than the characters and focus on playing. All this chat can sometimes hinder rather than help esp when you're running/playing bad