Forums & social media getting you barred from casino's?

[aaron1867]

I've been hearing over the last couple of months about individuals who are getting barred/suspended/banned from casino's for expressing their opinion on certain aspects of how X Casino is being run and so on. It is becoming pretty often these days.

I for one I am one of those who got banned from G-Casino (Nationwide) for expressing my dismay on this very forum about the casino. I also was told of two or three others I know personally & some posts on poker forums to see the same, but I can't really understand it. Another example is that Person A (not sure if I should name him) said on a Facebook page that the pots at the casino was not right & something was very iffy, later he was banned. This was an issue that had been mentioned to the staff numerous times, but person A commented on Facebook. Also many other stories of similar, one person had a go at casino for staff problems on media, also banned.

Is it right that they should be banned? You are expressing opinion about something, not really causing 'hassle' in such ways, like stealing from casino, fighting and so on.

Obviously this is a case that is personal to me, but thought on people should be barred or so on for expressing a bad opinion on a casino.

[redsimon]

Casinos can ban who they like. Or more importantly who they don't like


 /thread

[AndrewT]

If I ran a business and someone posted on Facebook that I was stealing from my customers then, yeah, I'd ban that person.

What did you say that got you banned from all G Casinos?

[tikay]

I'd ban them, too, why would I not? If you want to say things like that, you have to suffer the consequences - or prove it.

 

[aaron1867]

I can understand why Person A would (let's call him John Smith) get banned, of course it is not nice to be accused of stealing, but it was something that we all questioned.

I think with regards my own case, I just mentioned many things, but never was as harsh as accusing someone as stealing. I just said I wasn't happy with certain things and got banned. But I am sure as a business they would want to improve those aspects, rather than ban me for criticising. It was the second time I got pulled up for criticising, hence the actual ban, but manager says "Why not come speak to us" and I was like "we do, nobody listens" and so on. I had told him I emailed in also, with no reply.

If someone goes to Tesco and says they are not happy with staff, food & so on, I wouldn't imagined they would be told they would be banned.

The whole generalness is really that I am hearing quite a few stories about people getting into trouble with casino's after posting on Facebook, Twitter, poker and gambling forums.

[kinboshi]

I'd ban them, too, why would I not? If you want to say things like that, you have to suffer the consequences - or prove it.

It's as if Social-Media is not subject to the laws of libel, but it is.

It certainly is.  With the UK's terrible libel laws, you can say something on facebook or twitter that is 100% factual and accurate and still be sued for libel and the way the law is the onus is on you to show evidence that backs up your statements. This can cost you a LOT of money in legal costs, etc.

Oh, and a casino is a members club and so can ban who they want, when they want. People moan about blonde's moderation and the banning of certain members - but we're far more tolerant and lenient than most.

[tikay]

What if the Casino went on Social-Media & said you were a thief, Aaron? Would you be happy about that, & continue to use that Casino?

[redsimon]

I've known people being banned from Tesco too Aaron

[aaron1867]

What if the Casino went on Social-Media & said you were a thief, Aaron? Would you be happy about that, & continue to use that Casino?

You make a good point and are definitely the "nut" person to ask knowing you have been to every casino in Europe.

But these Casino places put up these groups and so on Facebook and Twitter, so surely there are to be shot at and contacted? PS, I have never said anything that bad against them, never accused them of stealing, etc.

I am over the whole situation, but after it all has happened, heard a few stories about X person and X casino.

[kinboshi]

What if the Casino went on Social-Media & said you were a thief, Aaron? Would you be happy about that, & continue to use that Casino?

You make a good point and are definitely the "nut" person to ask knowing you have been to every casino in Europe.

But these Casino places put up these groups and so on Facebook and Twitter, so surely there are to be shot at and contacted? PS, I have never said anything that bad against them, never accused them of stealing, etc.

I am over the whole situation, but after it all has happened, heard a few stories about X person and X casino.

Maybe they put up the groups so they can find out who to ban more easily?

[CHIPPYMAN]

U will b barred to if u keep flaming , critised , cursing , swearing ,
etc on blonde all the time kid !!!!! Lol

[tight4better]

I'm a manager at a Tesco store and have banned customers for 6 weeks up to life-time for false accusations, attempted scamming and abuse of staff/policies, never mind theft or damage of property.

People who generally give your business a bad name (sometimes for no reason) are not welcome. Tesco is slightly different because it's not a members club like a casino, they have the right to ban anyone they wish and give no reason for doing so, it says so in the agreement you sign when you join. That's why you can't sign in as a "Guest"

I'd be very careful in future about how you air your views in this sort of situation and instead speak to a floor manager quietly if you suspect theft in pots or are not happy with customer service.

[tight4better]

With the UK's terrible libel laws, you can say something on facebook or twitter that is 100% factual and accurate and still be sued for libel

Speaking as someone who's been libelled in a newspaper I'd massively disagree with this. You have no idea how long it took to get resolved and apologised to.

To say "We couldn't give a shit" is an understatement.

[kinboshi]

With the UK's terrible libel laws, you can say something on facebook or twitter that is 100% factual and accurate and still be sued for libel

Speaking as someone who's been libelled in a newspaper I'd massively disagree with this. You have no idea how long it took to get resolved and apologised to.

To say "We couldn't give a shit" is an understatement.

What I said was 100% accurate.  If the person who is offended by the statement has a lot of money, they can make life very difficult for the person they are claiming has made the libellous statement.

The problem in your case (and I have no idea who you are), is that you're not a big multinational or someone with an organisation with a lot of funding behind them.  If you say something about them (true or not), you can be sued for libel without them having to bring any evidence forward.

The ridiculous law is heavily weighted in favour of those with good lawyers - and good lawyers cost a lot of money. So in your case, it was the other way round - you were libelled by someone, and possibly didn't have the massive funds to go after them - which could be why it took so long to be resolved (I obviously don't know the details of your case, but a paper shouldn't be in the position to write libellous comments and feel safe from any action)?

Some interesting links:

http://www.libelreform.org/
http://www.senseaboutscience.org/pages/judgment-in-simon-singh-libel-case.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jun/27/libel-reform-get-right-defamation-bill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafigura#Super-injunction
http://richardwilsonauthor.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/slaying-the-super-injunction-dragon-and-dismantling-the-secret-courts/

Richard Wilson describes it (in that last link) as "rich man's justice". That's the problem with UK's libel laws.

[tight4better]

The problem in your case (and I have no idea who you are)

i'll poke you on facebook