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Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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Honeybadger
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 21, 2012, 09:01:55 PM »
@buffyslayer1...
Of course we can make exploitative adjustments when actually playing real poker, and of course we can bluff/rebluff. For that matter, if it is live poker we might have a physical tell on villain that he is bluffing/not bluffing. I am not disagreeing with any of this!!
But the model I gave was a very specific one, based on hands being face up pre-draw and none of the above is relevant to the model. The reason I gave this model is not because it directly reflects a real-life poker situation. The reason is because it allows a particular principle to be very clearly outlined. That is all it is, a theoretical model.
The actual hand in question (you said you did not read it) is an obvious fold to the 4bet preflop. This should be very clear. Apart from anything else, villain has a lot of pat hands in his 4betting range. I was trying to explain the fact that even villain's draws are often 'playing favourites' vs our pat T. And I tried to elaborate on this concept by using a theoretical model.
Of course, if we consider we are a stronger player than an opponent (or have more info on him than he has on us) then we take exploitative lines. The vast majority of our poker decisions are going to be based on exploitative thought processes rather than GTO ones. But it is still useful to look at pure theory stuff like this simplified model in order to build up a sense of what is going on with the maths.
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SuuPRlim
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 22, 2012, 08:52:40 AM »
Quote from: buffyslayer1 on November 21, 2012, 07:39:30 PM
fwiw i didnt look at the hands as they are not particularly interesting just ur post really
How you know if you didn't look?
Obv the hands themselves are pretty much meaningless, however as I'm basically trying to learn the game these are the types of spots that seemed to be fundamentally crucial but where I felt like I didn't really know what to do - I could prolly have picked out 5 different hands instead of each one of them. Walking before we can run and all, if anyone else is getting into a bit of NL 2-7 then theymight find my really basic questions useful
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 22, 2012, 07:20:09 PM »
Back to the Q pat, have been thinking a bit more about this.
Most of my 2-7 play has been fl, patting the Q would be pretty standard as we are a favourite over any 2 card draw.
But we're basically taking it to showdown or betting once v a hero.
NL we have far greater implied odds if we get there and he makes something.
So maybe splitting is best.
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 22, 2012, 09:38:52 PM »
Know almost nothing strategy wise about 2-7NL, doesn't it play sick big though? Seems 5/10 is quite high to "learn" at, inb4 baller
EDIT: Although I guess HU it's a bit different..
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 23, 2012, 08:14:45 AM »
Quote from: tight4better on November 22, 2012, 09:38:52 PM
Know almost nothing strategy wise about 2-7NL, doesn't it play sick big though? Seems 5/10 is quite high to "learn" at, inb4 baller
EDIT: Although I guess HU it's a bit different..
These hands were really €0.50/$1. Lil'Dave has doctored the HHs in order to maintain his balla image.
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 23, 2012, 08:27:26 AM »
well I wanted to play like $2/$4 but was so action but this guy was sat at $5/$10 with $350 and so were a few others, seems the stnd stack size for HU is 35 big blinds so i reckon its smaller than 5/10nl, obv just sat with a bag though cos
im a massive balla
had auto-top up on.
I saw a game in L.A being played once 6 handed $1,600/$3,200 nl2-7 and Abe Moseiri had built a pyramid out of $5k chips so i thought id learn how to be a lowball shark and then i could get a pyramid of $5k chips too
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 23, 2012, 09:34:06 AM »
Good plan Dave ... what could possibly go wrong?
Yes, 2-7 plays 'smaller' than NLHE or PLO. Only two rounds of betting.
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 23, 2012, 12:36:47 PM »
Bleh I'm thinking this is NL triple draw.
This is what you get when you forum whore whilst tired
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Re: Anyone know anything about 2-7 Single Draw?
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November 24, 2012, 03:59:52 PM »
Sorry HB I agree with u. I misinterpreted ur post as u should be playing gto which u weren't
i actually looked at the hand and i agree with u on it
@tightbetter, well i skimmed the hands they werent that interesting from initial glance and then saw HB post and found it interesting.
Sorry for derail.
Fwiw its well worth learning these games as come scoop wcoop ftops time so many people play them and are clueless!
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Quote from: buffyslayer1 on November 24, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
Fwiw its well worth learning these games as come scoop wcoop ftops time so many people play them and are clueless!
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