Martin O Neil

[celtic]

Well virtually every club could be classified as big or small depending on context and this argument about club size/penis size/whose the bigger fan is one of those inevitable internet debates that pops up over and over and never ever becomes interesting.

There are big clubs and there are small clubs. That is a fact. It's quite obvious which is which. And when someone states a club isn't big, when it clearly is, is just daft.

[rfgqqabc]

Well virtually every club could be classified as big or small depending on context and this argument about club size/penis size/whose the bigger fan is one of those inevitable internet debates that pops up over and over and never ever becomes interesting.

There are big clubs and there are small clubs. That is a fact. It's quite obvious which is which. And when someone states a club isn't big, when it clearly is, is just daft.

Ok, Sheffield united a big club? Leeds? Sheffield Wednesday? Stoke? Bayern? Ajax? Celtic are pretty irrelevant on the European level and the league is a joke. Would you say Newcastle are a big club? Liverpool? Fan base isn't a good measure imo

Tl will never agree with you and vice versa.

[celtic]

Well virtually every club could be classified as big or small depending on context and this argument about club size/penis size/whose the bigger fan is one of those inevitable internet debates that pops up over and over and never ever becomes interesting.

There are big clubs and there are small clubs. That is a fact. It's quite obvious which is which. And when someone states a club isn't big, when it clearly is, is just daft.

Ok, Sheffield united a big club? Leeds? Sheffield Wednesday? Stoke? Bayern? Ajax? Celtic are pretty irrelevant on the European level and the league is a joke. Would you say Newcastle are a big club? Liverpool? Fan base isn't a good measure imo

Tl will never agree with you and vice versa.

My point is, there are big clubs, and there are small clubs. Aaron's comment about Celtic & Rangers only being big in Scotland is a ridic comment to make.

Why isn't fan base a good measure? Not saying it's the best way to measure by the way.

[kukushkin88]

Well virtually every club could be classified as big or small depending on context and this argument about club size/penis size/whose the bigger fan is one of those inevitable internet debates that pops up over and over and never ever becomes interesting.

There are big clubs and there are small clubs. That is a fact. It's quite obvious which is which. And when someone states a club isn't big, when it clearly is, is just daft.

Ok, Sheffield united a big club? Leeds? Sheffield Wednesday? Stoke? Bayern? Ajax? Celtic are pretty irrelevant on the European level and the league is a joke. Would you say Newcastle are a big club? Liverpool? Fan base isn't a good measure imo

Tl will never agree with you and vice versa.

What should the measure be?

[TightEnd]

Fan base is clearly a good measure, not the measure but a good one.

and Celtic are clearly a massive club, you only need to look at any home Champions League match to see that.


In England there are plenty of big clubs outside the premiership and plenty of small ones in. In that, I would argue that fan base is much more important tnat the league you are in to argue which teams are big or not. Not that it matters!

[rfgqqabc]

Well virtually every club could be classified as big or small depending on context and this argument about club size/penis size/whose the bigger fan is one of those inevitable internet debates that pops up over and over and never ever becomes interesting.

There are big clubs and there are small clubs. That is a fact. It's quite obvious which is which. And when someone states a club isn't big, when it clearly is, is just daft.

Ok, Sheffield united a big club? Leeds? Sheffield Wednesday? Stoke? Bayern? Ajax? Celtic are pretty irrelevant on the European level and the league is a joke. Would you say Newcastle are a big club? Liverpool? Fan base isn't a good measure imo

Tl will never agree with you and vice versa.

My point is, there are big clubs, and there are small clubs. Aaron's comment about Celtic & Rangers only being big in Scotland is a ridic comment to make.

Why isn't fan base a good measure? Not saying it's the best way to measure by the way.

I mean stadium attendance or something like that is ok but virtually every big club sells out once a week. Total fans is highly skewed because of the support man u and co have in Asia, south Africa, USA, China etc. I think Aarons statement is at least somewhat accurate. I'd never argue the south American clubs are small but couldn't give you much info on them

Number of British fans best benchmark?

[The Baron]

what a lot of people fail to remember or dont mention about his "good job" at villa is that he had by the time he left and for the majority of his time there the 3rd to 6th biggest wage bill in the league. He signed various players he never really used who were on massive money and which partly has led to lerner cutting down the costs now as it was so unsustainable.

he did a decent job at villa some good jobs before that and is so far doing pretty badly at sunderland

This is true.

Looking at the bigger picture over his entire term his transfer dealings at Villa were very hit and miss. I think the fairest thing to say is he left a decent side but didn't leave a club in a sound position.

[The Baron]

Celtic and rangers are only big clubs in Scotland.

Couldn't disagree more.

They're the weakest they've ever been, but they are huge clubs.

[celtic]

Alex Ferfuson made some real bad signings. Lots of Managers have. Doesn't make them a bad manager.

[celtic]

Celtic and rangers are only big clubs in Scotland.

Couldn't disagree more.

They're the weakest they've ever been, but they are huge clubs.

We have been a lot weaker than we are now.

[sovietsong]

panathinaikos > celtic

[The Baron]

Alex Ferfuson made some real bad signings. Lots of Managers have. Doesn't make them a bad manager.

I agree. But leaving the club £100m in debt with a pretty average squad is a bit different from Alex Ferguson, one of the greatest managers ever to manage, signing Jumbo Jumbo.

For me MON's time at Villa doesn't cover him in glory. He did a great job at Leicester and a very good job at Celtic. They're his best bits.

[celtic]

york city > leeds united

fyp x

[The Baron]

Celtic and rangers are only big clubs in Scotland.

Couldn't disagree more.

They're the weakest they've ever been, but they are huge clubs.

We have been a lot weaker than we are now.

In the modern era?

[celtic]

Celtic and rangers are only big clubs in Scotland.

Couldn't disagree more.

They're the weakest they've ever been, but they are huge clubs.

We have been a lot weaker than we are now.

In the modern era?

Our team now is a lot stronger than it was under Strachan, Barnes, Venglos, Mowbray, Macari, Brady.