Speed 6Max BvB OOP

[Bully87]

Dont really know how to react on the turn.

Not many hands on villain, like 150 and stats at the time were 35/17/2.3 and 3ballin 11%, low fold to cbet too. But as I said low samples. He's already 3b me twice on other Speed tables, one I called and ended up folding postflop with AQ and the other I folded pre so he's applied pressure to me already in the very few hands I've played at 100NL Speed

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (IPoker)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, December 10, 06:07:44 ET 2012
Table Speed Holdem 5 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $96.00 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 331
Seat 3: Player3 ( $93.50 USD ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 40
Seat 5: Player5 ( $40.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 16, 3B: 2, AF: 7.5, Hands: 166
Seat 6: Player6 ( $161.63 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 8, AF: 0.0, Hands: 47
Seat 8: Player8 ( $438.85 USD ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 23, 3B: 7, AF: 2.9, Hands: 240
Seat 10: Hero ( $100.00 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 2.2, Hands: 70900
Hero posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [   ]
Player3 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Hero raises [$2.50 USD]
Player1 calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Hero bets [$4.00 USD]
Player1 calls [$4.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
Hero bets [$11.00 USD]
Player1 raises [$25.00 USD]
Hero???

I wanted to raise to make 65/9T and FDs pay to draw but also could look like a tit if he's got me crushed
Just felt like a spot where I'm massively right or massively wrong.

[SuuPRlim]

you can't fold this hand eveytime in this spot but with only 150 hands I'd fold and wait till we have more info before we start building a range of which hands we defend and dont defend in this spot. Best vacuum play very likely is to fold so I'd do that but make a note.

[pleno1]

Playing 19/14 over. 70k hands can't be good! Punish those bad regs!

[Bully87]

Playing 19/14 over. 70k hands can't be good! Punish those bad regs!

I'm aware my stats are on the nitty side :/ but I'm learning on my way up the hard way. If it means being nittier then so be it.
Would rather increase my aggression than be a 28/24 maniac.

[shipitonetime]

19/14 in 6 max is not great. If you are still doing well with this style over big sample then maybe i need to start playing over on ipoker :p

[Bully87]

19/14 in 6 max is not great. If you are still doing well with this style over big sample then maybe i need to start playing over on ipoker :p

I agree it's tight but in Speed 6Max in particular your folding a huge chunk of hands in 4 out of 6 positions, multitable that and you look like a nit 

[shipitonetime]

19/14 in 6 max is not great. If you are still doing well with this style over big sample then maybe i need to start playing over on ipoker :p

I agree it's tight but in Speed 6Max in particular your folding a huge chunk of hands in 4 out of 6 positions, multitable that and you look like a nit  

I play 8 tables of 200nl and 100nl 6 max zoom for a living. My stats are 20/17/7. I think you should probs be a bit more aggressive.

[Bully87]

Not that much more really. Aggression has increased to 3ish in December. So signs are there sort of.
8 tables is mental. I can do 4 but anymore and I'd be in autopilot.

[Honeybadger]

I definitely agree that 19/14 is much too tight. It doesn't matter whether it is rush/zoom/speed, or 'normal' poker.

You can partly make up for being too tight preflop if you play like a super aggro mofo postflop... you will get away with a LOT postflop since most opponents will give you a ton of credit (and they should tbh, since you will just have a good hand on the flop more often than most players due to your tight preflop range). But you should still play more hands.

Why don't you post your positional stats? I would guess that you are not playing anywhere near enough hands from the BTN/CO.

[SuuPRlim]

Bully you going through the styles lol i remember telling you a year ago you cant play 36/27 etc lol

It's like a good natural cycle you're going on i think, you start out overly spewy and tighten right up to playing a little too passive before too long you have settled up in a style that is both functionally profitable and that works for you

[Skippy]

19/14 in 6 max is not great. If you are still doing well with this style over big sample then maybe i need to start playing over on ipoker :p

(I could have quoted any of the last few posts).

It's almost 2013. Has it now got to a point where there a "right" and "wrong" style- so all that TAG and LAG stuff I used to read about has been scrapped, and you are either opening the right number of hands or you're not?

[Bully87]

I definitely feel like I am going through transition. I think compared to where I was a year ago when I started out playing 6Max I've learnt alot (albeit slowly) and now I've some how gone from one end to the scale to the other.
I dont agree that there is a set stat to how many hands you should be playing but more the aggression that you play them at. All good and well being a 28/26 pre but not if you aggro is 1.4 etc...

This is December thus far.

[muckthenuts]

Thoughts on check/call turn? Leading rivers if he checks back?

[Bully87]

Thoughts on check/call turn? Leading rivers if he checks back?

This is BvB, we're first to act on the river.

I bet for value on the turn. Which is why (IMO) it's such a weird place for villain to be ever bluffing.

But c/c turn and b/f river probably costs more to do doesnt it? plus there's a lot of possible bad rivers that we cant really bet.

[pleno1]

he means if you check the turn/