WHATTTTTTTT?!?!

[youthnkzR]

....are we calling it off with? Also what do you think he has?

(8 Left in the $44 6max on stars)

PokerStars Hand #90606780844: Tournament #660010352, $40+$4 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2012/12/11 19:34:09 WET [2012/12/11 14:34:09 ET]
Table '660010352 15' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: MuloMad88 (26689 in chips)
Seat 2: JanfrySPA (44739 in chips)
Seat 3: konway (55273 in chips)
Seat 4: sirgenutz (76986 in chips)
Seat 5: GaggleoKings (57287 in chips)
MuloMad88: posts the ante 125
JanfrySPA: posts the ante 125
konway: posts the ante 125
sirgenutz: posts the ante 125
GaggleoKings: posts the ante 125
JanfrySPA: posts small blind 600
konway: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GaggleoKings [XX]
sirgenutz: folds
GaggleoKings: raises 1211 to 2411
MuloMad88: folds
JanfrySPA: folds
konway: calls 1211
*** FLOP *** [ ]
konway: checks
GaggleoKings: bets 2115
konway: raises 3285 to 5400
GaggleoKings: calls 3285
*** TURN *** [ ]

konway: bets 9600 GaggleoKings: calls 9600 *** RIVER *** [ ] [] konway: bets 37737 and is all-in GaggleoKings:

[youthnkzR]

hehe edited op so you cant see my holdings, silly move.

[youthnkzR]

Anybody? Would really appriciate views as this confused me a bit. Prevous to this i had been opening / continuing alot and getting alot of folds, pretty sure this guy is capable tho (stats on scope / opr are locked so not for sure0. Fwiw i folded the river this particular hand but really wanted to press the call button.

[outragous76]

i know your holding:

I think you play it terrible fwiw

If you are going to call flop, and call a missed turn - your probably better off 3 bet folding the flop. He is going to struggle playing OOP with a bluff (if he calls) and it gurantees you see the river for free.

He probably has a hand like QJ KQ as well (or of course a spazzed 2 pr peel), but it also means some of your outs are crushed and will get you stacked.

Know when to fold IMO

[youthnkzR]

This quite possibly was terrible from me however i couldnt work out a value hand he could have that plays this way. The guy was much too solid to have a spazzy two pair and as this was the first time we've played together (at least in recent times) from the way i was playing i pretty sure he saw me as somewhat capable. Pretty sure he doesn't do this with QJ for sure and again am not convnced he plays KQ this way. My problem was i couldnt beat all bluffds / any hands he turns into bluffs.

Like 3bet/folding the flop tho, looking back.

[outragous76]

This quite possibly was terrible from me however i couldnt work out a value hand he could have. The guy was much too solid to have a spazzy two pair and as this was the first time we've played together (at least in recent times) from the way i was playing i pretty sure he saw me as somewhat capable. Pretty sure he doesn't do this with QJ for sure and again am not convnced he plays KQ this way. My problem was i couldnt beat all bluffds / any hands he turns into bluffs.

Like 3bet/folding the flop tho, looking back.

well you are both deep, so he probs has 88/33 as he doesnt want ot 3b fold pre and your arent deep enough for him to 3b call then play post flop.

So he peels to reassess and wanders into a set - it does happen

[SuuPRlim]

I think any holding that is tricky enough to be threadworthy OTR should fold the turn

[TL900]

I think any holding that is tricky enough to be threadworthy OTR should fold the turn

yea this. Not folding TP though.

[SuuPRlim]

JT J9 and 9T are the most likely flop bluffs and that would deter me from being a hero in this spot.

[lucky_scrote]

Assuming he's a straightforward player and not ballistic I am folding everything you need to make a thread about.