What is our get it in range vs cold4... (simple or no?)

[youthnkzR]

Notes on villains:
- potiss... : no exact stats but is fairly active and has a fairly high 3b % (only over a 120 hand sample) - is a ~$65k winner over a 10k game sample ($11 ABI) (Has not 3bet hero previous)
- KpacoTeHb : no exact stats but is fairly active and has an average 3b % (only over a 120 hand sample) - is a steady $40k winner over a 2k game sample ($27 ABI)

previous to this both villians are unknowns to us as we are to them.

hero has been playing 11/10 over a 120 hand sample and is UTG.

Tournament is $11r action hour on stars

Table '658012137 12' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: MattaTott (11099 in chips)
Seat 2: KTZpoker (9687 in chips)
Seat 3: potiss... (27760 in chips)
Seat 4: Farley2008 (18801 in chips)
Seat 5: whattime690 (10323 in chips)
Seat 6: erwi_n12 (4592 in chips)
Seat 7: KpacoTeHb (19035 in chips)
Seat 8: LordHedon (10305 in chips)
Seat 9: GaggleoKings (19152 in chips)
MattaTott: posts the ante 60
KTZpoker: posts the ante 60
potiss...: posts the ante 60
Farley2008: posts the ante 60
whattime690: posts the ante 60
erwi_n12: posts the ante 60
KpacoTeHb: posts the ante 60
LordHedon: posts the ante 60
GaggleoKings: posts the ante 60
KpacoTeHb: posts small blind 150
LordHedon: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GaggleoKings [X X]
GaggleoKings: raises 311 to 611
MattaTott: folds
KTZpoker: folds
potiss...: raises 1458 to 2069
Farley2008: folds
whattime690: folds
erwi_n12: folds
KpacoTeHb: raises 3031 to 5100
LordHedon: folds
GaggleoKings:

What is our get it in range here? (could be simple but i struggled for a decision with my hand).

[outragous76]

you need a very specific reason to think people cold4 without it - your stats dont give a reason

KK+

[youthnkzR]

I had XX felt like a gross spot. I ended up folding. 3 bettor also folded so no results sigh.

[outragous76]

I had KK felt like a gross spot. I ended up folding. 3 bettor also folded so no results sigh.

quoted

dont tell people you fold KK pre!

[youthnkzR]

I had KK felt like a gross spot. I ended up folding. 3 bettor also folded so no results sigh.

quoted

dont tell people you fold KK pre!

fmp

[Rod]

This is an $11r so a bit above what I normally play but in normal $11 tournaments on Stars you do certainly get players who can 3-bet light and fold to a 4 bet, this is pretty exploitable as well. Although 120 hands is not a large sample size it is enough to get an idea if somebody is 3-betting light. A winning player is of course more likely to be four betting light and than non winning player.

With all this said though a cold 4-bet without a massive hand is so rare that if somebody does it I would just be believe them. Even players who 3-bet wide are often pretty tight on 4-betting. I would assign the cold 4 bettor a range of QQ+ and AK. Does that sound reasonable? Against that range you are around 40% with QQ or AK, 57% with KK and 84% with AA. To be honest the bet size makes me think he is more likely to have AA or KK here

Therefore if my range above is correct and I do not think it is to far off you can only call with AA and KK.

[cambridgealex]

Lol you fold kings too often IMO