Alex takes a funky line

[cambridgealex]

Seat 1: Apaapa1 (226722)
Seat 2: lepapadu43 (25456)
Seat 4: patxalechat (109928)
Seat 5: Stylista (94406)
Seat 6: Sr Croissant (253404)
ANTE/BLINDS
lepapadu43 posts ante 240
patxalechat posts ante 240
Apaapa1 posts ante 240
Stylista posts ante 240
Sr Croissant posts ante 240
lepapadu43 posts small blind 1000
patxalechat posts big blind 2000
Dealt to Sr Croissant
 
PRE-FLOP
Stylista folds
Sr Croissant raises 2000 to 4000
Apaapa1 calls 4000
lepapadu43 folds
patxalechat calls 2000
FLOP
 
patxalechat checks
Sr Croissant checks
Apaapa1 bets 6433
patxalechat folds
Sr Croissant calls 6433
TURN
 
Sr Croissant checks
Apaapa1 bets 12345
Sr Croissant calls 12345
RIVER
 
Sr Croissant bets 26555

300euro sunday major on european site, standard is mixed, lots of terrible fish, but this comp attracts the better regs too. readless on this guy.
Calling turn thinking I'm wining sometimes/losing sometimes, then bet river to fold out Qx and his 9x semi bluffs. Thoughts?

[paulhouk03]

Wwjbd?

[cambridgealex]

Wwjbd?

I can't think on that level

[cambridgealex]

i am cutoff, he's peeled btn btw, short handed obv

[skolsuper]

You're gonna have a tough decision when he raises. Excluding all other options, I much prefer c/r turn to c/c turn lead river. Of those other options, I think bet flop is a good idea also.

[pleno1]

wow, wrote a long reply on phone last night and it decides to not have sent.

I was saying that I like fold pre, although I understand 99% of people open in this spot.

I like bet flop, more so with the than checking with the in this exact spot.

Don't like river as .fr fish will see 2 mised fd's and never fold a Queen, and a reg will see 2 missed fd's and never fold a queen

[Rupert]

I think bet flop is a good idea also.

[Mondeoman]

wow, wrote a long reply on phone last night and it decides to not have sent.

I was saying that I like fold pre, although I understand 99% of people open in this spot.

I like bet flop, more so with the than checking with the in this exact spot.

Don't like river as .fr fish will see 2 mised fd's and never fold a Queen, and a reg will see 2 missed fd's and never fold a queen

This ^ plus, if he's good enough to v bet a queen on the turn he's good enough to know your donk lead doesn't really rep many value hands.  When he bets the turn i  actually think usually he has a strong hand that he's not folding to a river bet or you're ahead anyway.  So i think your bluff (if that's what it is) only works if villain has a 9x hand that isn't two pair.  So to conclude I don't really like it.

[cambridgealex]

Figured he's vbetting a queen on the turn infrequently so range was mostly bluffs and semi bluffs, a lot of which include 9x in so I just bet to get him to fold 9x and perhaps Qx sometimes.

Realise it's pretty out there - probs bad, hence the post

[rfgqqabc]

why wouldn't he bet a queen on the turn for value?

[cambridgealex]

why wouldn't he bet a queen on the turn for value?

Because he's scared of the ACE

[George2Loose]

Isn't the fact he's still betting when he should be scared of the ace mean he has a strong range? I really don't get any part if the hand. I'd fold pre, bet flop, fold turn and river

[rfgqqabc]

why wouldn't he bet a queen on the turn for value?

Because he's scared of the ACE

You have very few combos of hands with an ace in that c/c flop though right?

[Boba Fett]

Any reason not to bet the flop?  Your hand is pretty face up as having weak showdown value and you're oop.  Obv depends on villain, if they can recognize this or not or will checking to them induce bluffs.  Think any reasonable player is betting the turn with Qx/Ax that got there and air so knowing your villain is really important here.

Not sure I like your river sizing either, think you will get a lot of people just mashing the call button and hoping for the best

[muckthenuts]

Isn't the fact he's still betting when he should be scared of the ace mean he has a strong range?

Good card for his bluffing range to continue on also

If he's a fish donking to fold out Qx/9x prob won't have the best success rate, (not often he will have Qx if a fish as well), and good players will realise we rep nowt with many draws bricking. Don't think it's a good play without any reads on the guy, could be ok with some knowledge.