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« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2012, 10:46:55 AM »

We just called, fully expecting to see AK, she slowrolled (sighed, said ffs I should of won a lot more this hand) and showed KK. But happy I didn't lose more as played.
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2012, 10:49:44 AM »

I think all of us that know Tina think that raising flop is a bad play, and betting the turn is mehh I might bet small like 35, but I think checking is better. Vs this villain it's definitely right to be super worried when she even opens to 6x utg. This is why it's not a good spot to 3bet imo, because her 6xing utg range does not include AJ imo, so its stuff we flipping or crushed by, so I'd be calling obv because we can spike an ACE or a QUEEN and work out pretty easily if we're beat, AND we can make some nice straights and flushes of course and win a big pot. Really don't wanna have to 3b/fold such a good hand.

This hand is super villain dependant which is why I'm agreeing with the people that have played her, rather than taking my usual line of +1ing whatever Stu and lildave says.
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« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2012, 11:36:11 AM »

I think all of us that know Tina think that raising flop is a bad play, and betting the turn is mehh I might bet small like 35, but I think checking is better. Vs this villain it's definitely right to be super worried when she even opens to 6x utg. This is why it's not a good spot to 3bet imo, because her 6xing utg range does not include AJ imo, so its stuff we flipping or crushed by, so I'd be calling obv because we can spike an ACE or a QUEEN and work out pretty easily if we're beat, AND we can make some nice straights and flushes of course and win a big pot. Really don't wanna have to 3b/fold such a good hand.

This hand is super villain dependant which is why I'm agreeing with the people that have played her, rather than taking my usual line of +1ing whatever Stu and lildave says.
Yes that sums things up perfectly. Posted before that Tina's turn check felt trappy. The  is a safe card for her and to me felt like her logic would be not to lose a customer here
by betting. Analysing the river bet just screamed value. This was the same reason for keeping the pot small on the turn with tp/gk. Just be glad it was only £25 on the river I'm making a big overbet/shoving in Villains shoe's.

Again as we have already stated its one of those spots that is super villain dependant.   
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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2012, 12:58:13 PM »

That's the crux of my confusion, she can only have nut hands but we 3bet her UTG open with AQs so presumably we were expecting her to be opening smaller pairs and lower Aces.

If you say the 3bet was a mistake pre-flop then the cautious approach down the streets becomes way more justified
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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2012, 02:53:50 PM »


If you say the 3bet was a mistake pre-flop then the cautious approach down the streets becomes way more justified

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