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« on: December 31, 2012, 08:04:12 PM » |
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Hey, Hand played online. We are playing 4 handed now, were previously 3 handed for a long time. My image is probably weird, I'm 3x'n every button which nobody does in 2013 and villain likely thinks I'm a fish. He has taken some big sizings previously. He is betting like 4/5's usually I open   in the cut off to 12, villain on the button calls. Flop ($30) is    I bet 12, he calls. Turn ($54) is  I bet 24, he calls River is ($100)  I bet $32, he goes all in for $380 total effective When I bet small on the flop it was always to bet small on turn/river and try and induce vs somebody who my initial impression was pretty aggro and could turn a lot into a bluff and could have a bunch of floats. When he goes all in vs raising to like $148 or something how do you think his range changes both for value/bluffs. I was v v surprised about his river sizing, so I went from bet/snap to bet/doubt. |
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Deadman
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2012, 08:30:35 PM » |
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I think you have made it a tough decision now because of your sizing. he can be bluffing as it doesn't seem like you have a huge hand.
Any previous reads on villain?
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pleno1
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2012, 08:35:29 PM » |
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well i wanted to go for the max and use this sizing to induce, so im happy he raised and the intention was to b/call and i wouldnt find it a tough situation, but the all in feels weird.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Deadman
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 08:44:05 PM » |
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you said the guy thinks your a fish.. Because of this I think it's a fold.. He's going for max value with a nutted hand IMO..
If he knew u were decent I'd think it was a bluff but vs fish people go for the overbet all in and it's always for value from a good player from what I've seen. Obv I'm just a live donk tho..,
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pleno1
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2012, 08:47:04 PM » |
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I'm not sure he thinks I'm a fish, he has bbb and I've folded to the 3rd barrel 3/3 so he probably thinks im weak/bad.
What would you suggest as a value range here? K10/A10/88?
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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tight4better
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2012, 09:08:35 PM » |
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Don't see him taking this line vs what he assumes is a fish with a hand you beat, he's seen you fold OTR 3/3 now and prob thinks you're gonna get stubborn and call off light and wants the max.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2012, 09:44:47 PM » |
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The worse he is the more likely I am to fold
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Ole Ole Ole Ole!
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SuuPRlim
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 04:21:36 AM » |
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its only really J9/97 and 8x he can bluff with on the river though, I don't see any reason for him to double float QJ, or to do anything but fold/call 8x and I think he folds the turn quite a lot with 97 so it seems very likely he has a good hand OTR, for this reason I'm not sure I really like the small/induce plan on turn + river.
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pleno1
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 06:51:16 PM » |
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It's pretty funny thing this poker, the one guy I spend as much time discussing poker with thinks this is a call every single other person ( i asked q a lot) all said fold.
I called.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Free_Rollin
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 04:57:02 PM » |
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Does villain ever try to get you to fold all you Ax, apart from AT/AK?
With a weak bet on the flop, and with you're apparent weak image, we assume he raises draws on the flop often?
Hate these spots when you try to induce, but then begin to doubt yourself. I edge more towards a call, but if you're confident about your river sizing tell, then I don't mind the fold.
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SuuPRlim
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 07:15:44 PM » |
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man nlhe is so complicated
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pleno1
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 07:28:40 PM » |
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Well ak = a2
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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pleno1
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 07:29:49 PM » |
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Well he could bluff other ax I guess
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Free_Rollin
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2013, 08:26:15 PM » |
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Well he could bluff other ax I guess
Well that's what I meant. Turning his Ax into a bluff/trying you to fold chops. These kind of situations are really read dependent, so it's tough to give a definite answer. The only thing we do know is that you've played your hand in a way to try and induce, and that's what has happened. |
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SuuPRlim
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2013, 08:50:14 PM » |
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why would he think this is a good spot to turn an ACE into a bluff? Seems like a very bad spot
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