JJ in weird pot

[david3103]

.25/.50 Cash
Plays closer to .5/1 with straddle on in most hands and preflop raise size generally being £3/4

Dramatis Personnae
Orig Raiser (£350+) - young, competent, opens pretty wide from late positions
SB (c£180)- young (pretty much the whole table is young apart from me), competent and gobby with it. Gives a lot of tells, some of them false. Sat with £100 and took a chunk off me when he flopped bottom set and called two streets before over jamming v my river bet - I folded TPTK in that hand).
BB - v young, always sits with minimum and looks to get a double up or two. Very rarely reloads, very rarely sticks around once he's spun up to £60+
Me (c£180)

8 handed and no straddle this time but it's opened to £2.50 in late position and I 3bet in cut off to £6.50 with JJ
Button folds,
SB calls - he'll flat a lot of hands here including AQ/AK but not QQ+
BB jams for £20 - yeah, it's the minimum sit down and he's pretty consistent in doing this with a range of AQ+ 88+
Orig raiser folds

We?  Call, or raise?
If raise, how much?

[pleno1]

Call  "alright I'll give you a spin" , hope SB rofl jams pairs, Ax.

[rfgqqabc]

Don't mind either really. If i raise its to  £33.5 though

P.S although there are plenty of reasons to 3bet to this size my default would be at least 3x in this spot. As long as there is a sound logical reason behind 6.5 its cool, but in general £7.5-9.5 is better in my opinion. Also if you its people i know feel free to send a pm with names, i can guess but not 100%

[tight4better]

Doing a call here.

[LonOhRay]

"I'll give you a spin, thirty four pounds so it's heads up"

[rfgqqabc]

Isn't I'll give you a spin a verbal declaration of a fold?

[outragous76]

Isn't I'll give you a spin a verbal declaration of a fold?

how would that be?

[rfgqqabc]

Isn't I'll give you a spin a verbal declaration of a fold?

how would that be?

Sigh, went to the hobbit, came back and still the blonde hero in question, or any reputable source has failed to expand on this story. Isn't there a certain poshboy who declared "I'll give you a spin" before folding against a shortie? No way I can be making this up surely.

[david3103]

Don't mind either really. If i raise its to  £33.5 though

P.S although there are plenty of reasons to 3bet to this size my default would be at least 3x in this spot. As long as there is a sound logical reason behind 6.5 its cool, but in general £7.5-9.5 is better in my opinion. Also if you its people i know feel free to send a pm with names, i can guess but not 100%

£6.50 felt like it left room for both the SB and orig raiser to 4bet me lighter. In truth SB probably only 4bets AK QQ+, but orig raiser may be more creative sometimes.

Anyway, it folded to me and I made it £45 (too much) and SB folded q10dd, shortie had AK I flopped a set on Jxx dd and hence the, result dependent, debate.
SB declared that floating was my better play because he'd ship the flop and I'd win it all...

I was curious, not because of the 'win it all on that run out' issue, but more on the basis of what impact the shortie shove has on the whole hand.
Is the £20 from him enough? Should we ignore that and try to play for more vs one or t'other of the other players in the hand?